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This attitude 100% explains why people are so threatened by affirmative action for college admissions. The mistaken belief that where you go to school is the only predictor of success in the real world. As a hiring manager in tech, yes, candidates who attended a top program are likely to be stronger than the general applicant pool. But, no, the best candidates did not all go to the best programs. In fact, the best programmer/engineer I ever had the pleasure to work with started off as a diversity hire of sorts. He was a poor, white, male without college role models, who was hired into a coop program by a big engineering firm and worked through his undergrad and masters, which he received from an average public university (not even the flagship conference). I would hire this guy any day, any time. But without that corporate coop program focused on hiring from non-standard pools of candidates, he would never have gotten the opportunity to shine the way he has.[/quote]
I 100% agree with this

The problem is there are two kinds of affirmative action

1.  Finding and seeking out QUALIFIED candidates from unusual/overlooked places

2.  Hiring LESS qualified candidates from underrepresented groups

Do you disagree with point 2?  If you get rid of 2 I think almost everyone would support Affirmative Action 100%[/quote]
What is your basis for stating #2 as a fact? I have never seen it. Focusing on only women, who are pretty much the only underrepresented group in tech that has sufficient numbers to say anything meaningful, the women who clear the basic training bars probably move up ranks faster. Because they are good.

I'm excellent by any objective measure. My educational pedigree, my professional pedigree, the things I've accomplished in my jobs, and the public thought leadership I've cultivated. But I'm the only woman in a technical role on our 40 person team. Women shouldn't have to be excellent to make it in tech. I'll know there is equality when mediocre women succeed in tech jobs.[/quote]

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