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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]m'eh, she's not saying anything I haven't read here a hundred times already.There is a visceral disdain for middle America among many people here. So much, and so common, that I can't tell if it's a legit post or not. Look at some of the pics in some of the other threads about toning down the hostility. There's actually a photo of a guy holding a sign that says F*ck Middle America". That seems pretty legit to me. [/quote] Yeah, how do you tell if it's a troll or not, haha? You can see the same stuff in virtually every post that touches anything related to class, Ivy schools, even driving habits! Urbanites are some catty mofos that like to [b]cast asparagus[/b] on people from flyover country. [/quote] That's a flipping hilarious autocorrect, I think. "I toss my asparagus at you, peon." On another note, there seems to be a concerted effort to cast the Democrat Party as snide and superior elitists. Dems have their problems, but this does not describe not the bulk of the party. Does anyone have any leads on whether this is a concerted part of Republican talking points? I'm serious -- it has really ramped up, both with overgeneralization criticisms and apparent sockpuppets. What's up?[/quote] I didn't realize how elitists the urban liberals were until I started reading DCUM. (And the disdain, too, even as demonstrated in the post above- what is it that anytime someone has a different opinion than you, they're accused of spitting out Republican talking points? The implication is that we can't think for ourselves.)[/quote] I think what you see may be what you are bringing to the conversation, and I'm saying this with a gentle tone of voice, not castigating. I [i]asked if[/i] there were Republican talking points, because -- as I am sure you know, given that there are right-leaning websites which actually post them, and titled as such -- there is a new pattern of focusing on this. Things weren't this way, even on DCUM, five years ago, and suddenly we have a plethora of posts on the topic, and we have bizarre caricature posts of liberalism as well. We've also seen a lot of "nothingburger," and that has been traced to Republican talking point lists. I honestly think there are many calm, careful, thoughtful Republicans who are being innundated with this, and they are starting to believe it, because that is what they see. I suspect you are probably int hat group. I suspect there is an attempt to polarize us against one another, and I don't want to see that happen. [quote]For starters, stop castigating successful and educated career people as failures simply because they don't make $200k. [/quote] I don't. None of the liberals and/or Democrats I know personally do, either. None of the left-leaning websites I follow do, except I see it on DCUM all the time. That makes me ask questions. Not make assumptions about what I worry about, but ask questions. [quote]When we try to explain that type of thing to the liberal snobs, [/quote] :) Don't talk to snobs. Talk to non-snobs. ;) [quote]they double down and start calling $100k earners "losers."[/quote] Okay. Then they are jackasses. If they actually identify as liberal or Democrat in their off-line life, then they are a stain on that group. [quote] The irony of the whole thing is that while the snobs put down average workers (forget $100k...I'm talking $40k) as rednecks, flyover ignoramuses, etc., they defend irresponsible people on welfare who have five illegitimate children and no way to support them. Why do liberals look down upon hard-working middle Americans who support their families and defend to the death those who don't even work for a living and live off taxpayer largesse?[/quote] I'm not trying to go all no-true-Scotsman on you, but that perspective is at odds with what liberalism means in history and etymology, so I don't know what to tell you. It makes so little sense, actually, that it's making me question the motives of people who seem to present it as what they believe.[/quote]
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