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I didn't realize how elitists the urban liberals were until I started reading DCUM. (And the disdain, too, even as demonstrated in the post above- what is it that anytime someone has a different opinion than you, they're accused of spitting out Republican talking points? The implication is that we can't think for ourselves.)

For starters, stop castigating successful and educated career people as failures simply because they don't make $200k. When we try to explain that type of thing to the liberal snobs, they double down and start calling $100k earners "losers." The irony of the whole thing is that while the snobs put down average workers (forget $100k...I'm talking $40k) as rednecks, flyover ignoramuses, etc., they defend irresponsible people on welfare who have five illegitimate children and no way to support them.

Why do liberals look down upon hard-working middle Americans who support their families and defend to the death those who don't even work for a living and live off taxpayer largesse?[/quote]
Is this the post you are talking about? 
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/641523.page

How do you know the political affiliations of the posters?[/quote]
Yes, yes....that's the thread.

I figure they were liberals just by the way they responded to the OP's argument - that liberals lost the election because they are out of touch with average workers, and make them ignored and like losers when educated people making $100k or families making $200k act as if those decidedly above-average incomes are barely allowing them to get by. How, the point was, does that make the "real" family, HHI about $55k, feel?

Instead of acknowledging that there was a point there, these well-paid professionals came out swinging, calling the people in the low six-figure bracket losers, screw-ups, failures, etc. No recognition whatsover on the point just made - that when liberals don't realize how they make aversge earners feel like shit, they lose elections. Who else but liberals would have responded that way, since the message was directed at liberals?[/quote]
So your predisposition is to assume that it's liberals who don't care about people with 5-figure incomes? Okay, but that's not consistent with the philosophical underpinnings of liberalism, like at all.

FWIW, I'm pretty liberal, and I've got a high 6 figure HHI and supported OP's point many times. Ironically, I thought the people continuing to cry poor at $200K HHI and calling OP a loser were either trolls, self-centered jerks, or the courteous ones were conservatives :)[/quote]
I agree that traditionally, the underpinnings of liberalism was to care about five-figure earners, but there's been enough recent examples to throw that into doubt, what with all the nasty remarks about rednecks and flyover country. I see you are one of the "traditional liberals," and I'm glad there are still some around.

But I still think it was liberals who were castigating middle-class earners because that the claim of that arrogant behavior was directed at liberals - and refuted with quite a showing of defensiveness. If it were conservatives posting, they wouldn't have turned themselves inside out to disprove a complaint about liberals. [/quote]
P.S. Also, this forum is populated overwhelmingly by liberals. Considering the statistics, it's even more unlikely that the conservatives came out of the woodwork to refute a criticism of liberals' elitism as it relates to the average worker in flyover country.

P.P.S. I used to be a "traditional liberal', but the party has become so awful that I've gone predominately to the conservative side. The liberals will lose a lot of us, and they already have, unless they stop with the intolerance and hatred. [/quote]

So how predominantly are you on the conservative side these days. It will be quite funny if you admitted to running away from intolerance and hatred into the arms of Donald Trump's Republican party.  :lol: [/quote]
Two points:

One, I was upset when Trump won the nomination, because I knew how flawed HRC was (under FBI investigation, for starters) and feared he could win. I begged my friends to cross over in the primary and vote for a moderate R (maybe Kasich) just to ensure that we wouldn't end up with Trump as president. But all my liberal friends insisted he couldn't win, and, well....the rest is history.

Two, I'm finding, in recent months particularly, that the intolerance and hatred is emanating much stronger from the left, generally speaking. I would rather associate myself with the conservatives, as bad as some of the extremists are on that side. Mostly, though, the conservatives are less hateful. Sorry!![/quote]

It is the liberals fault that the conservatives picked Trump? LOL. I actually did cross over for the primary and voted for Kasich. But the Republican clown car picked Trump because he espoused things that they liked. The wall, birtherism, grabbing women by the genitals, mocking a person with a disability, keeping Muslims out. I don't get it, but the conservatives love that stuff.  [/quote]
No, I told you that story because you asked "how conservative do I I lean" to indicate my moderate position. I was pulling for Kasich.

But you still had to come back with a nasty overgeneralization condemning conservatives as a group. Again, it's that type of demonization of "the other side" that is driving me more and more away from liberals. There was plenty, and in mean PLENTY, not to like about Hillary. I could start outlining all her crap, but there would be no point.
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I am the PP who asked you about how conservative you are in relation to Trump. I did not write the most recent response. That's another poster

I agree that there was plenty to not like about Hillary(I was very sad when I voted for her in the general election), but if you thought then and still think now that Trump with all his demonization of "others"  is a better choice than Hilllary, it will be quite ironic.[/quote]

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