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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't want to say to much for fear of losing my job but I am an ESOL teacher at Lee High School. There are tons of 20 year old males at this school that are in freshman classes such as World History 1, Biology and World History 1. To me this is an issue that has been ignored despite teacher protests.

This is an age issue, not an immigration issue. In my level 3 ESOL class I have freshman who were level 2 ESOL last year but I also have 20 year olds. 14 year old girls should never be in a class with 20 year old men. In my ESOL classes I have seen 19 year old men dating 14 year olds. Nothing is ever done about it. My voice has been ignored for years but FCPS has been doing this for years within ESOL classes, but they are now spreading outside ESOL as well. The only way your daughter will not have 20 year old men in their class is if they take honors classes as a previous FCPS teacher already stated.[/quote]

I also teach ESOL in FCPS and have never seen anything like this.  I think you are making it up.  [/quote]

I don't know how you don't see this as an ESOL teacher.

A 17 year old registers and takes ESOL level 1 government their freshman year. They turn 18 during the year.

Their second year when they turn 19 they don't take social studies.

Their junior year when they turn 20 and are level 3 ESOL they take a team taught world history class which half the class will be general Ed 14 year old freshman. This also happens with biology for level 3 ESOL students. No way you teach ESOL in fcps.[/quote]

Sorry, but yes I do teach ESL in Fairfax.  I am not saying it's impossible.  We do have older students who can't attend alternative schools in regular schools sometimes.  However, there aren't that many, and the ones I've seen are not obviously older and have been mostly women.  Moreover, they have tended to be people who really wanted to learn, as they are not required to go to high school at that age.  I have never seen a freshman class full of 20 year old men as you describe.  [/quote]

I never said they are full of them but every team taught class where I am at has at least one 20 year old male and at least 2-3 19 year olds. My level 3 ESOL class has several 20 year olds with 14 year olds. You must not teach at a Lee or a Stuart or Annadale. I agree most the kids are good but 18+ year olds should not be in classes with 14 year olds.[/quote]

NP and I also teach ESOL in a high school in FCPS - not one of the ones listed above, but a school with about 120 total ESOL students.  We definitely have 19, 20, and 21 year olds in our program and in classes with 14 year old freshmen.  Most of where that happens is Alg 1 and World I. To make it to that point, these students do need to be pretty motivated, but it still doesn't mean that 21 year old men in class with 14 year old girls is a great mix.  Like the PP, we have talked for years about how this is a bad idea and just not working for these older students, but this is what the county does. I have also heard that the transitional programs are being cut back next year, so that might mean more lower level older students back in the regular HS ESOL programs.  It really is unsustainable and I don't know what is going to happen.  [/quote]

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