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^^^^ the spinning on Biden losing another war has begun.

I guess it’s over.[/quote]

Russia's invasion of Ukraine has been a huge win for the US. We've spent about 5 percent of the defense budget on this. And most of that was transferring older weapons systems that were due to be decommissioned regardless. In return, we've seen Russia, our most significant adversary over the past 80 years, get absolutely wrecked on the battlefield. The've lost well more than half of their military capabilities. They've literally lost thousands of tanks. Their casualty count is approximating 300,000. Their economy will be shattered for years. A brain drain has already happened. Russia is completely crippled. There is no coming back from this. Meanwhile, NATO is stronger than ever. Even Finland and Sweden joined. There is no risk at all of Russia invading any other European country. And that is no small thing. Russia's miscalculation has been a gift to the West. Biden has handled this really well.[/quote]

If this is even remotely true, then why is NATO pushing Ukraine to surrender rather than doubling down here? Why would NATO let Russia off the hook if Russia is losing so badly here at so little cost? [/quote]

What do you mean if this is remotely true? It is absolutely true. What's not said above is that the Russian Black Sea Navy is also crippled and cannot operate effectively in this region any more. They just lost one of their most advanced ships, capable of firing Kalibr cruise missiles, this weekend. These ships cannot be easily replaced (if at all). The West also got the benefit of seeing Russian military "tactics" (being generous here) in action for the past two years.[/quote]

So why stop then? Why not spend 2x and basically finish off Russia militarily? [/quote]

Well, part of the issue is that the MAGA contingent is beholden to Trump's foreign policy of peeing on models and getting overseas real estate deals. So how to navigate that?[/quote]

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