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^^^^ the spinning on Biden losing another war has begun.

I guess it’s over.[/quote]

Russia's invasion of Ukraine has been a huge win for the US. We've spent about 5 percent of the defense budget on this. And most of that was transferring older weapons systems that were due to be decommissioned regardless. In return, we've seen Russia, our most significant adversary over the past 80 years, get absolutely wrecked on the battlefield. The've lost well more than half of their military capabilities. They've literally lost thousands of tanks. Their casualty count is approximating 300,000. Their economy will be shattered for years. A brain drain has already happened. Russia is completely crippled. There is no coming back from this. Meanwhile, NATO is stronger than ever. Even Finland and Sweden joined. There is no risk at all of Russia invading any other European country. And that is no small thing. Russia's miscalculation has been a gift to the West. Biden has handled this really well.[/quote]

+1 people are trying to spin but it can only be seen as a huge win for the US. The cost has been minimal to the US treasury and the degradation to Russia has been significant. It will take decades for Russia to rebuild their military, and based on economics and demographics they likely will never fully rebuild.

This east has been devastating to Ukraine. But for the US this has been a huge victory, and if we continue assisting Ukraine it could be an even bigger victory. Let’s eliminate all of the old Soviet surplus armor (which was huge and built over 70 years) and ammunition![/quote]

why would $113 billion (CNN) be considered “minimal”? LMAO

Russia has reallocated nearly a third of its commercial economy toward arms production.

Russian manufacturers are making up to 7 times as much ammunition as Western arms makers, Estonian defense official says (Reuters).

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$113B is huge for Russia but we are taking about the US which has an almost 27T GDP. On 27T, that is just a decimal .113. I know people have a hard time with numbers that size but it really is a rounding error. About .4% and that is over a year and a half so even less if annualized.

Russia for comparison is spending north of 30% of GDP, and that is what is disclosed this an underestimate. An economy can’t function like that long term but they should be ok for another year or two with their reserves (although there are and will be more accumulating problems).[/quote]

And Russia’s economy was ranked 11th globally BEFORE it invaded Ukraine in 2022. For context, if California were a country, it would be ranked 5th.

Russia is going to end up where it was when the Soviet Union imploded, but minus the intellectual capital, which has either left the country or has died. [/quote]

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