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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]At food pantries, people snap up the fresh produce when it is available. The claim that people choose to eat junk is in part false and in part true due to generational poverty and people tending to follow patterns. The programs around SNAP have been working to fix those root problems and now they are gone. You have no idea how hard it was, and how much effort and lobbying it took to get people to be able to use their snap benefits at a farm market. It wasn’t allowed at all until very recently. When it was allowed farmers invented the mobile farm truck to get the food into neighborhoods that don’t have those markets.
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The food pantry I volunteer in has most of the fresh foods left behind and not taken.  Meat and dairy will go- but fresh fruits and vegetables are not taken by most [/quote]

That’s because we’re all addicted to cheap junk food laden with salt, sugar and fat. And lower income people even more so given this sh*t is cheaper and easier to access than fresh fruits and veggies.[/quote]

Let me see. Apple of dubious freshness that counts as an item in my total and provides 60 calories, or a bag of biscuits that will survive the end times and nets 1,000 calories. Which one should I choose for my hungry kids?[/quote]

Except most people on food stamps aren’t short on calories.  They’d be better off taking the apples.  Even if not peek freshness for raw eating, make some applesauce, bake into something, can them.  Tons you can do with apples, especially in the fall when the food pantry is quite literally overflowing with them.  No one takes the vegetables either, just saying [/quote]

Again, you ignore the reality that these folks are short on kitchen equipment, storage space, and TIME.[/quote]

Why do people accept that the poor have less time? They spend fewer hours a week working than higher income households. That’s in large part why they are poor. [/quote]

Do you have a source for this other than your ass? A lot of people living in poverty are cobbling together multiple part time jobs. A lot of people living in poverty work a full time job that pays poverty wages. Part of WalMart's onboarding process for new employees is filling out public assistance paperwork.

Now, why do they have less time? Again, cobbling together multiple part time jobs. Traveling on poorly funded public transit. Walking. Having a smaller living space, requiring them to shop more frequently. There are a multitude of reasons low income people struggle with having less time. They do not have the money to pay for convenience like you or me.

They generally aren't sitting around doing nothing all day twiddling their thumbs and eating junk food like so many of you imagine. The welfare queen image you have in your mind was racist propaganda. It's not real. [/quote]

You can get it from the Current Population Survey. Here’s someone doing the cross tabs in 22: [url] https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/charted-actual-working-hours-of-different-income-levels/[/url]

Lowest 10% work 42.2 hours while highest work 46.6.

You can of course run your own cross tabs if you like.

So where did all of you who thought they worked more get your data?[/quote]

Knowing actual poor people. Being actually poor.

Census data seems like kind of a weird source to draw these broad conclusions. People who work 60+ hours per week aren’t home to answer the door. Plus, it doesn’t account for the people who work 40 hours per week across three different jobs, at all hours of the day and night, taking multiple busses or commuting hours to get to them. 40 hours of work might take 60-70 hours of total effort.

Next time you’re in your posh suburban grocery store, ask the clerk how long it takes to get there from where they live. [/quote]

If you’re dismissing Census data, then you’re the one pulling things from wherever.

There is also no data that they have longer commutes. Maybe you missed all the people that moved to Frederick and such places during Covid. They are now clogging up 270 for all the tradesmen also coming from Frederick. You’re Walmart workers are probably from Germantown.

What you are left with is that the poorest actually have poor executive functioning. Which requires quite a different solution than throwing junk food at them. [/quote]

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