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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Answer the question does antizionism equal antisemitism. I don’t care if there are American jews in the marines etc. no kidding. My Jewish friends believe these words are synonymous and have hastily branded anyone including children who state negative attitudes towards Israel as being both and will not really engage with any nonjew who questions anything, they shutdown the convo immediately. This seems a little narrow minded and frankly unfair. That is why I am on this forum as I am terrified to even broach the topic with any American acquaintances who are Jewish. [/quote]

Did you read the OP? That’s the entire topic of this thread. If by antizionism you mean criticism of the Israeli government then no, it’s not antisemitic on its own (but could be motivated by antisemitism). If by antizionism you mean thinking the state of Israel should be dismantled then yeah, that’s very probably antisemitic.

“My Jewish friends believe these words are synonymous and have hastily branded anyone including children who state negative attitudes towards Israel as being [antisemitic]” 
You keep hijacking threads to talk about this alleged bullying incident at your child’s school. I have a really hard time believing your kid was branded an antisemite simply for criticizing the Israeli government, but idk maybe. Kids are dumb and cruel sometimes. That  doesn’t justify your insane persecution complex. You seem to think the Jews are out to get you and ruin your life if you so much as breathe a word about Israel and uhhh……look around you ma’am. Anti-Israel sentiment is incredibly pervasive. People don’t seem AT ALL afraid to be very very open about it.[/quote]
Yes, unfortunately it is true my DC is seen by the jewish community as being antisemitic and the Jewish americans I am acquainted with are not open and engaging as far as any inquiries regarding their country. It’s very off putting. [/quote]

Are you approaching random American Jews and inquiring as to their views on “their country”? Yikes lol[/quote]
They consider Israel their homeland and have made this clear. Israel is as much their home as the US and share this with others. Is that wrong to refer to it as their country? Should I frame it as their ‘other country’ ‘their homeland’ which is acceptable?[/quote]

For someone who claims to be “just asking” and not have much stake in the matter, you sure do seem to be awfully persistent about this. Who exactly are all of these Jewish friends of yours and can you explain more the actual context of these discussions? [/quote]
I live in a town that’s around 33% Jewish American, we have orthodox, hasidic, conservative, the whole spectrum here. It appears that any nonjew who broaches the topic of Isreal is immediately shut down or branded an antisemite for saying something deemed offensive.[/quote]

Something offensive such as what? What specifically have you said about Israel that’s gotten you shut down? You’re being incredibly vague here. If you have specific examples, provide them. [/quote]
It was a conversation regarding why a child was being branded an antisemite. The very socially connected Jewish American parents of the offended child stated that the child was scared and felt threatened due to the offending nonjewish child stating something along the lines of Israel was killing people and he felt bad. I wasn’t present for this child conversation. The jewish American parents basically ignore me and will only speak with DH. Per DH the parent of offended child supported that he felt threatened and he felt that branding my DC an antisemite was the right thing to do essentially. [/quote]

“Something along the lines …” sure.

My guess is that you were offensive to the parents and that is why they only talk to your DH. Also the parents are Jewish - not sure why you need to keep saying “Jewish American.”

Anyway, it’s possible whatever your child said got exaggerated but it is a good chance for you to explain to him why he needs to be careful about generalizing. [/quote]
I am not socially connected like these parents are. I am hesitant and quite shy and am always respectful of everyone. The parents of this child throw shade and frankly have a huge network of jewish and nonjewish friends and don’t seem interested in knowing me. They are bullies. [/quote]

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