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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Let’s ask some people from the former East Germany - they were good with walls and borders![/quote]
Yeah, let's. [b][i]Those[/i][/b] walls and borders were to keep people [u]in[/u]....not [u]out[/u]. One of the scariest moments of my life was, in the late 70s, escorting a former East German family member back through The Zone to visit an ailing aunt who lived in West Berlin (and was there by happenstance from the '40s while the rest of the family was stuck in Russian-controlled territory). My family member was terrified the heavily-armed guards would see the name on their US passport, compare it to some roster of those who'd escaped socialist/communist clutches and be arrested or detained. Now, that didn't happen but it sure as hell could've.

That said, I'm not a fan of a wall. But I'd definitely like to see better enforcement of existing laws (like booting visa-overstays), more clear definitions and understanding on what is legally present, faster processing of asylum requests, and a hard 'no' to the things like employment and education that facilitate those who are just 'here' but shouldn't be.[/quote]

The Berlin Wall separated people in the same city. These were Berlin residents, families, etc.

This is not the Same thing as a Border wall keeping people from other countries entering in illegally.[/quote]

The Berlin Wall, and the much longer structures along the border of the former East and West Germany, may have had the intention of stopping the “brain drain” from the East, but they also were extremely effective in keeping people out.

One couldn’t enter the former East Germany without being thoroughly vetted, and forget about walking (or swimming) eastward across the border.

I think a border like the one that existed then is what we need to prevent unlimited people from clambering into the US.

To appease all of you “it was made to keep people in!” folks, we can call it the “Anti-Fascist Protection Rampart” - you are all about opposing Fascism, right?[/quote]

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