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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/

According to this, Tony Oronato’s actions that day are of great interest to the committee. And Pence knew not to trust certain agents that day.

It’s very strange for a USS member to become political staff also.

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You guys are missing the point of this posters link and comment (thank you 6:02) I’ll add— in addition to mounting evidence, it’s clear that an inside job was at work well before Jan 6.

[b]From the above linked article:[/b] 
Tim Giebels, Pence’s lead special agent in charge of his protective detail advised him of the plan to keep him away from the Capitol. Keith Kellogg, Pence’s national security adviser, confirmed that was the plan.

[b]Pence:[/b] “I’m not getting in the car, Tim. I trust you, Tim, but you’re not driving the car. If I get in that vehicle, you guys are taking off. I’m not getting in the car.”

[b]Tony Ornato[/b], who oversaw Secret Service movements and was allgedly operating as Trump’s [i]special[/i] political advisor, told Kellog they were planning to move the vice president to Joint Base Andrews.

[b]Kellog:[/b] “You can’t do that, Tony. Leave him where he’s at. He’s got a job to do. I know you guys too well. You’ll fly him to Alaska if you have a chance. Don’t do it. He’s going to stay there. If he has to wait there all night, he’s going to do it.” [b]Tony Ornato denies this conversation happened.[/b]

[b]Very important to note:[/b] Senator Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), was president pro tempore on January 6, 2021, meaning he can/would take on Pences’s duty. On [b]January 5th[/b], Grassley said that he would preside over the Senate’s Jan. 6 session because he didn’t expect Pence to be there. How could he possibly know that Pence wouldn’t be there?

[/b]Ornato[b] also denies that he told Hutchinson about Trump’s physical altercation with Bobby Engel. [b]Roll the tape:[/b] [i]After Trump’s speech at the Ellipse. Hutchinson testifies that she went back to the Chief of Staff’s office. Ornato was in the hall and waved Hutchinson into his office directly across from her office. Bobby Engel was in Ornato’s office.[/i]

Hutchinson states under oath that [b]Ornato[/b] asked her: “Did you hear what fking happened in the beast (SUV)” and proceeded to tell her.
[b]Trump screaming[/b]: “I’m the fcking president. Take me up to the Capitol now.” He reached up toward the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. Engel grabbed Trump’s arm and said: “Sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. We’re going back to the West Wing.” Trump then lunged at Engel.

Remember, [b]Bobby Engel[/b] was there, while Ornato recounted the beast details. Engel did not confirm or deny. He also previously testified to the committee a watered down version of a disagreement between himself and Trump when they rerouted back to West Wing.

There’s so much more speculation and evidence of insider crimes. The list of pardon requests ironically had to go through Hutchinson lol. She provided a partial list in her testimony. Don’t sleep on Cassidy folks. Maybe they hired her for her pretty face, but she’s their ticket to hell.

[b]18 U.S. Code § 2383[/b] 
[i]Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.[/i]

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I am the one who posted that article. Thank you for expounding on it. Please note the article was written in April. The committee is on to Ornato.

The point about Grassley is absolutely insane. [/quote]
The Grassley bit is easily one of the worst things about this. It wasn’t just Trump and Meadows and a few lackeys, which is kind of how I feel like Kinzinger and Cheney want this to shake out; the entire apparatus of the GOP was involved. Grassley isn’t some newbie like MTG (who, let’s be honest, had way more access to Trump than a freshman representative ought to have had), he’s one of the most senior Republicans.[b] Which means Mitch knew, too. [/b]

The Hutchinson yesterday was interesting and all, and it was great to have someone under oath confirming that all publicly, [b]but we kind of knew all that stuff too.[/b] The fact that the entire GOP was at least aware of the attempted coup and many more appear to have been involved and expected to have roles to play is just gobsmacking and isn’t being treated with near the gravity it should be. [/quote]

Of course, Mitch knew. He is the wellspring of all evil in our government today. Everything leads back to Mitch.[/quote]

I didn’t know many of Hutchinson’s details. I’m the poster that that elaborated on the article link from 6:02. It’s the first we’ve heard of Trump’s violence against his staff, right down to the WH valets etc. who had to clean up in his wake. I’m furious about the Grassley comment, and it’s the first I’d read about it. McConnell is an utter lying sob. For me, it solidifies that the committee chairs are going after the low hanging fruit. If it gets the job done, great I guess? This is Cheney’s spotlight, if it’s successful, then gratitude. But do not think for a second she (or Pence) should be hoisted up on a pedestal. Our memories won’t be short. I have more respect for Pence after reading the article above. He knew his duty. He knew Grassley’s plan. I was unaware until reading the article above. I hope people here will read it, or at least the recap. [/quote]

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