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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Oh, and yes most of life is faking it till you make it, so BS and narcissism go hand and hand, and since in formative years you have fawning sports parents and pep rally’s and cheerleaders all shouting how great you are, athletes develop outside confidence far beyond their actual skills. [/quote]

You clearly have never seen a full grown adult “fan” screaming from the stands at your adolescent child on the court. Or a full grown adult coach screaming obscenities at your kid and telling them they are a loser because they scored 15 instead of 25 points. [/quote]

Yeah, that PP doesn't know much about youth sports. I've had kids do all sorts of activities and it was only in sports where fake achievement was not routinely awarded. Even schools these days don't tell kids when they aren't doing well. It's all positive praise only in public school.

I think one of the reasons athletes do well is in the "participation trophy" era, they are the only kids who routinely hear that they didn't do a good job. Everyone else rarely hears a negative comment until college, which is why so many of them fall apart in college. The athletes, on the other hand, are made of sterner stuff because they've had years of training.[/quote]

I agree and the continuous, incremental  improvement that high level sports develop also makes athletes stand out to employers. Our DD learned the same in ballet and it has served her well. Many ballet dancers go into STEM. They’re work ethic is unsurpassed too. Our son plays a college sport and has ADD. My family wasn’t into sports despite some innate athletic talents but now I’m a huge proponent of them for certain kids who have that drive. Lifesaver for our child and many others. .[/quote]

I'm the PP and I include dance in a similar category as far as teaching children about loss, critical feedback, and disappointment. My kid who did competitive dance had a similar experience. I imagine that the same thing could happen with competition chess, so it doesn't have to be athletics. But in the younger years at least, it is mostly athletics.

I remember talking to one of my kids' elementary teachers because she wanted some help organizing the classroom for a class activity. I had asked about whether she wanted a place for a prize to be displayed (the activity could have had a winner) and she sighed and said no and told me that most of the kids in the class had never lost so much as a board game and she did not have the time to structure a lesson on winning / losing when she was focused on an academic activity. Her comment always stuck with me. [/quote]

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