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BTW this is not meant as a way to pound theists.  I am a Christian.  But I have studied metaphysics, and the mind-body problem is an interesting topic.  I thought this would appeal to other religious people because essentially this area of study is about the difficulty of [b]reconciling consciousness with materialism[/b], and it's pretty tricky stuff for anyone.[/quote]

That is the trick.  In 1880, the physiologist Emil du Bois-Reymond proposed seven enigmas of the material world that science could not answer:

the ultimate nature of matter and force
the origin of motion
the origin of life
the origin of design and order
the origin of consciousness
the origin of thought and language
what is free will

(there were secondary riddles, such as the origin of undesirable human behaviors like racism and violence)

The reason why materialism can never answer these questions is the limitations of its parameters of knowledge and acquiring knowledge:

What do we accept as knowledge?  (the material universe)
What do we accept as method?  (the scientific method)

So metaphysics is not a topic for materialists.  The definition of materialism excludes the reality of anything beyond the material universe.[/quote]

Really.  Then what are all those people doing studying metaphysics?

And as for explaining the ultimate nature of matter and force, all I can say is that the last time religion dabbled in it, they decided the earth was the center of the solar system.  Why?  Because it had to be.  And what did they do to the heretics who said the sun was at the center of our solar system?

Oh yeah, I forgot.  Religion sucks at answering these questions.  Religion is great at giving feel-good answers, but they don't feel so good when we actually start measuring them.[/quote]

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