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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Actually, the drop-out rate for blacks is disappointing. Less than half who enter graduate within six years, whereas the majority of whites do.

Which brings up another consideration....besides being unfair to whites with better grades, is it to the benefit of the taxpayers to fund black stidents admitted under the lower AA standards with Pell grants, subsidized federal loans, and so forth? Or, for that matter, is it doing a disservice to let black kids into a competitive program to which they not qualify without the AA "boost" - only for them to take in loans, drop out, and have no degree to show for it?

Wouldn't it be better for these students for them to be admitted under their own merits to whatever achool they would normally qualify for? That way, they are with their peer group - in terms of academic achievement - and more likely to complete the program and earn a college-level salary?[/quote]

Just stop with all your racist stereotypes. [/quote]
What in the world is racist? Blacks DO drop out at rates much higher than whites. And then they are stuck with loans, without a degree to show for it. So instead of artificially lowering admission standards so URMs can get into schools for which they would not qualify, they get into the schools that are more in line with their academic record and projected success.

There wasn't a single thing in there that was racist. You liberals just resort to that when you can't argue the facts.[/quote]

Wait. Do you think higher-ranked schools are [i]harder[/i]?

Did you even go to college?  :lol:

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Yes, #1 in my class - and a terrific academic scholarship as a result. Thank you for inquiring.

You can't even follow the conversation. Of COURSE harder-ranked schools are harder. That's why they shouldn't be lowering the standards so that people (URMs) are getting in when they would NOT get in if standards were applied equally across-the-board. You have a group of whites with 3.9s and 4.0s, used to acing classes and tests, and then the AA entrants with 3.3 and 3.4, who struggle to keep up with their peers. (And they do....students admitted under lower AA standards are tracked, and they need significant tutoring.) Even so, the majority of black students do NOT graduate, and what's more.....due to their lower SES, they end up with much more debt than whites. (These are all facts. Black students borrow more.)

It would be better if the 3.3 and 3.4 students ended up at a university where their peers - white and black - were at that level as well. They would be more likely to complete the program.

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#1 at Liberty, huh?

You can argue that there is a different peer group but the calculus 101 class at Harvard isn’t really any harder than the one at George Mason. If anything it’s easier because the students will have more resources available to them. More TAs.

There may be more interesting research happening, more intellectual conversations in the hallway,  or more unique course offerings but Harvard isn’t inherently HARDER than other schools. 
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