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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Love the PP who mentioned "generational wealth".   My dad stood in a bread line during the Great Depression.  Look at all the immigrants who have come with nothing.  [/quote]

Came from nothing but had nothing taken away from them. Don't compare a select group who immigrated away from their poverty to people climbing out of it. I don't know what being in a Great Depression which is an economic issue for a decade has to do with centuries of Slavery and Jim Crow. Horrible analogy. Especially since blacks had to deal with a Great Depression as well as Jim Crow Laws. [/quote]
DP, but I think the point the first PP was making was in response to another poster who said blacks hadn't had the opportunity whites had to build "generational wealth" - as if all whites have been here for multiple generations building and passing on wealth. My grandparents arrived here penniless, as teenagers, and in ONE generation, my parents were middle class as young adults, and upper-middle class by their 40s.[/quote]

DP, [b]but assuming they weren't black, your grandparents likely had better job opportunities and were allowed to live in nice neighborhoods where the property values kept going up and the schools were nice.[/b]

My AA parents went to college, got nice middle class jobs, and when they moved into a nice neighborhood they slept nervously every night, waiting for a cross to be burned on their lawn or molotov cocktails to be thrown through the windows.  They'd lived in a pretty nice house on the black side of town but had to wait until federal housing law allowed them to move into nice new developments.  Still, people found ways to let our family know they didn't appreciate us being there.

And none of this discussion addresses the fact that the mishmash of state and local education policy in this country still means that where you live pretty much decides social mobility.  If you're poor, you can work hard and be a little less poor.  But getting into the middle class is a steep uphill climb; more are sliding down than climbing up.

But we seem to be just fine with that state of affairs.[/quote]
First, it's awful that you parents had to sleep nervously at night, for no other reason than they were black, fearing cross-burning and Molotov cocktails. It's reprehensible.

That said, however, you've made the same false assumption about whites having it easy. Contrary to your belief, my grandparents did not have any good job opportunities, nor the opportunity to move into a nice neighborhood and gain from rising property values. They arrived in this country penniless, and uneducated, and lived in a hot, 2-room NYC walk-up that consisted of a kitchen and a bedroom - think of the old Honeymooners with Jackie Gleason - where they shared the bathroom with the adjacent apartment. My grandmother was a seamstress (manual sewing machine), and my grandfather worked in a machinist factory. They eked out a living, but never to the point that they could buy a home, so they were neither recipients or beneficiaries of "generational wealth transfer." Despite that, my father was admitted to a prestigious program, no-tuition, and turned his life around. (I believe the program still exists in some form today, although I think it is called the McCauley program of CUNY. It is very competitive.)[/quote]

After your father turned his life around by gaining access to an elite education, did he experience hostility and the threat of violence from neighbors who didn't want him moving in to their high class neighborhood?  White DP here and I'm trying to imagine what that does to a person's psyche.[/quote]
Yes. When I was 12, we moved out of our neighborhood because of the rampant antisemitism there. I was teased, things were stolen, the word "Jew" was keyed into the new czr my dad had bought a few days later, and so forth. [/quote]

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