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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Okay, one thing at a time...

First, Muhammad had an Islamic state, so it is a comparison between state systems. The US is based on a secular system, whereas the Islamic state Muhammad oversaw was based on a religious one.

So, its not a comparison of religion to state if the religion and state were one entity. In this case it was.

But -- if you think a more fair comparison would be Islam to Christianity, then in the area of women's voting rights or political relevance, then I can not speak for when Christianity gave women political relevance without doing additional research. Do you know when Christianity gave women political relevance or voting rights?[/quote]

Christian here. Jesus' attitude towards the state in general (in this case Roman Empire) was pretty much "render unto Caesar what is due Caesar (taxes) and render unto God what is due God." Jesus is not recorded as talking about voting, for men or women, perhaps because voting wasn't much of an issue for subjects of the Roman Empire. He was anti-authority, rather than pro.

There isn't anything really in the gospels about a Christian form of government. That's why even lots of Christians oppose fundie efforts to legislate Christian values from the federal or state governments - the separation of church and state has existed since the earliest days of Christianity.

I could go into women's rights in Christianity (love the Mary and Martha story, evidence of one or more female apostles), but I don't think that's what you're looking for.[/quote]

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