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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Catholic dude saying catholic thing, at catholic school?

oh my[/quote]
except the Catholic nuns disagree with him.  I guess they aren't real Catholics.[/quote]

Eh. They are all real Catholics. There are some basic principles and doctrine Catholics are supposed to agree with (or at least not publicly dissent from), but open debate on the rest is fine.[/quote]
So the quip about a "Catholic dude saying catholic thing, at catholic school" can be debated since not all real Catholics agree with him.[/quote]

Sure. Debating what he said is fair game. But it goes too far to say someone is not a real Catholic because he does not have the same views as you on matters that are not core required beliefs.

I would have changed what was said above to "Catholic dude saying [b]his[/b] Catholic thing, at Catholic school"[/quote]

You missed the part where he speaks against basic Catholic teachings. So yeah, the dude is a Catholic, but he’s similar to a Catholic that had an abortion For convenience , or got divorced, and hold them up as good Catholic teachings.

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Which basic principles or doctrines did he speak against? Did he say anything contrary to the Nicene Creed? Did he publicly doubt the concept of original sin or sin itself?  Did he question the sacraments or the authority of the Pope? Did he speak out against transubstantiation?

NFP and what roles women should play or not in the world simply are not basic doctrine. Having very non-mainstream views on those things are not a sin, but an abortion of convenience is. And he did not present his kooky takes as Catholic teaching, but his views.[/quote]

Yes, he did say something against Catholic preaching. Jesus Christ for f**k sake. If you don’t see it, you’re not a Catholic.

There is no way you are Catholic and you didn’t see that.

I wish non-Catholics would stop commenting on this thread because they are so incredibly ignorant. It’s almost impossible to speak to them about the subject.[/quote]

I'm a catholic, catholic educated, married catholic, children baptized catholic catholic. He said catholic things. Nothing he said was outside of mainstream catholic teachings. [/quote]

Thanks for chiming in, handmaid. [/quote]

You never see these same high emotions raised when rich homosexuals buy a baby from a brood human.[/quote]

That’s because that never happens. Just like Jews didn’t kill Jesus The Romans did[/quote]

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