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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I really want to hear someone defend athletic recruiting to elite schools, considering how expensive and therefore exclusionary the travel, parental involvement and training required for a child to be recruitable are. [/quote]

I really want to hear someone defend private secondary schools pipeline to elite schools, considering how expensive and therefore exclusionary....
I really want to hear someone defend standardized testing and paid test prep, considering how expensive and therefore exclusionary....
I really want to hear someone defend the common app essay and the paid prep and adult assistance, considering how expensive and therefore exclusionary....

If only we could all have equal outcomes.[/quote]
There are public magnets to rival private prep schools.

Standardized tests can be prepped for alone using free prep books from the library.

Acquiring help in Common App essays is cheating, and no one defends that.

Meanwhile sports cannot be paid by oneself, requires high fees + high parental involvement. It's also entirely irrelevant to academics. There's no way to defend it. [/quote]

Are you saying that only rich kids play sports in college?  Please, defend that.[/quote]

Nobody is saying “only rich kids play sports in college,” but yeah, the vast majority college athletes across the spectrum of schools are rich white kids.  [/quote]

But clearly there are viable ways to be an athlete in college without money....just like there are viable ways to perform on a standardized test without money....so athletics is not exclusionary.[/quote]

Well people win the lottery as well. That doesn’t mean it’s the norm. [/quote]

Football is the largest sport on any campus in terms of scholarships (85 compared to 9.9 for soccer) and roster size and it does not skew wealthy at all. Next in line is Basketball which is not a sport for the wealthy at the college level. Track and field which also does not favor the wealthy. Even soccer is becoming largely foreign students. Football alone is the bulk of scholarships on the mens side, so athletics without money are the norm [/quote]

This conversation is about the 25-50 colleges with low admit rates. Those schools do not look like the whole. [/quote]

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