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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So if a kid mentions their race or references it in an essay, what is the "fair admission" guy saying? That AOs can't use the essay? [/quote] That was one of the questions asked by (I think) Justice Jackson. There was no direct answer. [/quote] Eventually agreed that it is probably ok in that context, since an Asian student could also reference in their essay eg. discrimination that they may also have faced growing up.[/quote] I heard Jackson ask whether if you have 2 kids, one whose family has lived in NC for 5 generations and gone to UNC for 5 generations, and one whose family has lived in NC for 5 generations and could not go to UNC for 5 generations because of slavery, could they each say it was important to them to go to UNC for those reasons and could UNC consider each of those stories as factors and the plaintiffs' lawyer basically said UNC could consider the first and not the second (though he did say UNC could refuse to consider the first, and could consider first gen or low SES students).[/quote] It sounds so stpuid a kid born in 2023 is affected by the slavery of his/her slave ancestors. [/quote] Yes, stupid and very sad that this is true. [/quote] How is the kid affected by slavery today?[/quote] I wrote quite a bit about the impacts of slavery that are still very much with us — and I erased it all. Instead, I’ll flip it. If your parents or grandparents or great great grandparents came to this country in search of a better life — and actually found one, how does this affect kids in your family today? [/quote] Do you think Blacks in the US today would have been better if their ancestors stayed in somewhere Africa so they are in Africa today?[/quote] Unlikely but choice matters. I wonder if we asked today, many from African countries would volunteer to come here as slaves.[/quote] Your ignorance is showing. I bet you don't know a single African. They have pride. They don't come here to slave. That's why they outperform native born whites and blacks. [/quote] I'm not talking about pride or lack of it. Everyone in underdeveloped countries doesn't have similar abilities or options, desperation is real.[/quote]
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