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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I can't imagine standing at the school house door telling a group of people that there are too many of them who are gifted and academically high achievers, so we are not going to accept their children into our program, even when we know they're deserving and qualified.[/quote]

It would be abhorrent if that were happening. What is actually happening is that people are standing at the school house door saying "there are groups of people who are systematically excluded from this school but who are also gifted and academically high achievers, and we are going to make room for them in part by expanding the overall size of each incoming class".

Again, just because it [b]impacts[/b] you doesn't mean it's [b]about[/b] you.[/quote]

If you go from a policy which allows a particular group to assert its rights to one which does not allow them to assert its rights, AND a policy disproportionately affects that group, AND preexisting racism against that group exists, then that unambiguously allows for racism directed against that group, which basically guarantees that racism is a motive.  Just because not about you to [b]everyone[/b] doesn't mean it's [b]not[/b] about you.[/quote]
OK, what rights are not allowed to be asserted?
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Weird, am I the only one who sees the subject line of this post which says that it's so obvious that there's been a [i]lawsuit filed[/i] over it?  I thought we were past the point of common forum social engineering where someone could just get away with pretending that they don't know what's going on.[/quote]

The dominant argument in this thread is that the lawsuit is without merit, which is exactly what the question PP asked is driving at. There hasn’t been a good answer to it yet. The filing of a lawsuit does not entitle the complainant to a presumption of legitimacy.[/quote]

Yeah, but it's hardly a legitimate challenge.  As we all know, every human on the planted is subject to unreasonable boredom when faced with excessive triviality.  Kids who are "advanced" are no different, they just hit that threshold far sooner.  An advanced program like TJ is a relief for those students which allows them to get an appropriate education rather than suffering through it while diminishing their abilities.  Eliminating means by which such kids can qualify on their merits and switching to holistic means takes the power to ensure that they get an appropriate education out of their hands.

[b]This should be common knowledge to anyone discussing the lawsuit[/b] which makes challenges along the lines of "ok, what rights are not allowed to be asserted" frivolous and in bad faith.  Obviously people who have a history of being objectively wrong about things and a history of objectively harmful abuses would prefer to remove objectivity from the school system; that's not a question.  It doesn't make it the right thing to do.[/quote]

1) If your argument held any legal merit, public college admissions processes would look much different than they do

2) That whole second paragraph is a casserole of nonsense

3) You don’t have a right to dictate how your merit is measured[/quote]

DP, but the Constitution definitely provides people with rights to dictate how their "merit" is measured (or, more precisely, to challenge when their merit is measured in discriminatory ways).

We're going to see quite a few of these admissions systems designed to discriminate against Asians in favor of soft quotas for Blacks and Hispanics tossed out as unconstitutional.  The left can't even pack the Supreme Court, much less undo the judicial appointees  of recent years.  [/quote]

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