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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I found Tinsley's reaction to Bethenny when Bethenny was in the pool and trying to confide in her pretty interesting.  Her eyes were kind of darting around and she looked uncomfortable and couldn't get out of there fast enough.

It reminded me of some BS middle school/high school drama where you get caught talking to the one all your friends are being mean to.  And you feel kind of bad for said person, but you also know if you are seen talking to her or seeming sympathetic, it will be social suicide.

These women are awful.  I'm not saying Bethenny is any walk in the park, but the mean girls are clearly LOVING watching her flail.  Especially Ramona.  Dorinda and Carole are the head mean girls.  Tinsley is just happy to be in the group.  And Ramona is the one that no one really likes, but they let her stay in the group to have more numbers.

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You know what, though? Bethenny did not make a single overture of friendship or connection with Tinsley. She was pretty stand-offish with her from the get-go. There's no goodwill or trust there, because Bethenny wouldn't give Tinsley the time of day when Tinsley was the one in a vulnerable position.

Bethenny's trying to make withdrawals, but she's invested NOTHING in some of these accounts! Now, can she reasonably expect LuAnn and Sonja and Dorinda to somewhat be compassionate and kind to her, even when they're not on the best of terms? Yes. Because there's been SOME give there, and not just take. Tinsley's looking at Bethenny like she's a stranger in the pool, crying because...she's a stranger in the pool, crying.[/quote]

I am the one you are responding to.  I think this is a very fair point.  However, in that very human moment Tinsley could have either take the moment to connect or not.  And she chose not to, to me very obviously out of loyalty to the mean girl club.

I actually have more respect for Carole just icing B out completely.  Dorinda plays both sides.  Pretends to be her friend and then blows her up behind her back.[/quote]

I see your point, but from where I sit, even Bethenny's "very human" moments are extraordinarily calculated. Why do I think that? Because she uses her tears. She films herself walking through her old apartment that she shared with Jason--that wasn't on RHONY cameras, that was on her own, personal camera, and she shared it with the world. Ditto when her dog, Cookie, died. Those weren't RHONY cameras rolling, that was her deliberately making a public movie of herself sobbing after her dog's death. It's so narcissistic and calculated and gross. At least peeing on a stick for her pregnancy with Bryn was a RHONY camera, like a legitimate part of the show.

So Bethenny sobbing does not necessarily a human moment make, and I think Tinsley knows and feels that. That being said, it would have been a better move *for the show* for Tinsley to throw Bethenny a bone in that moment, and a smarter cast member probably would have done so. At least Dorinda seems to know what time it is, and how much the audience actually wants of drama vs. reconciliation. [/quote]

I agree pp. B is the queen of manipulation and milking the show for everything she can get out of it. It's kind of funny that Carole/Tinsley etc are being referred to as the mean girls. B has always taken that title. She has had the reputation of being horrible to people she is close to. She's horrible to the people she views as her lessers. She started making digs at Carole in previous seasons. They were digs that were so nasty I would never tolerate that in a friend. I think she does it to establish dominance in relationsips. We've seen her go through this with everyone she is in a relationship with that appears on one of these shows. She attacks each person so aggressively and out of the blue that they are thrown off balance and are baffled at how to respond. There have been a few times that the recipient deserved it but most times B is hunting for slights so she can rage/establish dominance. Everything we see is calculated. She is so broken that she can not manage a meaningful relationship with another person. [/quote]

Are you Jason's PR person?[/quote]

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