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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't hold anything against players for seeking more opportunities to play, and you do bring up a very good point, the team could have rostered them and just saved them for the Sunday games or they had other commitments. More than anything I was reflecting upon the coaches who would bring a player of that caliber to a bracket in which most of the teams are in Division 6-4 of NCSL. Like you said, obviously that team did something right to get to the final, they were a very good team to begin with, which is why bringing the player seemed madly unnecessary. Maybe he used to play there and was just guesting for his own team, again, I don't blame the player, but that you'd think it is a nothingburger is questionable.[/quote]

How is is it even remotely questionable? So a team brought some guest players, who cares. Your team could. And by the looks of it they did not lean on the kids for the tournament.

Perhaps the kids wanted to play with some friends. Most guest opportunities are as a result of some social connection to the host club. Some clubs will use guest opportunities to try and bring a player in but many use them simply for depth and ask kids who somebody on the team knows is available. Rarely is it so sinister as you make it out to be. [/quote]

I've been a team manager for many years for two different teams and every tournament my kids' teams have been in (at least from U11-U14), refs have checked player cards and rosters for the final game.  Maybe some rinky dink tournament would allow non-rostered guest players, but any credible tournament would not.  Also, [b]many tournaments have a rule that a player can't guest play for another team if the team with whom s/he is regularly rostered is playing in that tournament.  So if the A and B teams of a club are both in a tournament, A team players can't guest for the B team.[/b] [/quote]  [b]I never heard of this...I've been a coach and a team manager.[/b] However, our club moves players between the the A and B team all the time based on availability, how they are currently playing, etc. and we play in the same tournaments.  This has NEVER been a problem and my son has probably played in maybe 16-17 tournaments.[/quote]

it's standard - you should read the tournament rules some time.[/quote]  Do you know of it being strictly enforced?[/quote]

Agree its standard.  Enforcement depends on (1) how closely the tournament AGCs are checking rosters when they are submitted for check-in and whether they'd notice a player being double rostered and (2) whether the field marshal or ref are checking cards and rosters before the game to make sure the players match the roster.  (2), in particular, can be pretty spotty when everyone is under pressure to keep the games moving and on schedule.  [/quote]

This was interesting so I contacted my son's team manager because I know we move and have moved players around all the time for tournaments and we have a tournament coming up next weekend.  The team manager didn't know so he contacted the tournament director and the tournament director basically said that it's not a problem and just to scratch the kid from one roster and add him to the other.  In other words, they don't enforce it.
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It's generally referred to as a club pass - you have 36 or so kids in an age group with two teams as an example, and you can move them between rosters as you want.  This is one of the foundational principles of CCL.  However...each player does need to be on an 'official' roster - either US Club or USYS.  That's what you show for a tournament.  Most tournaments have rules that limit guest players to a certain number (usually about 4 or 5), and also rules that restrict one player being on multiple teams in a tournament.  Then there's State Cup, which has a 'Frozen' roster at the start of the competition that carries through the final.

Clear as mud now?[/quote]

The rules say that a player can not play for another team if his primary team is playing in the tournament.  I don't think this rule is about kids playing on two teams in the same tournament.  This is saying that you must play on the team that you are officially rostered on if that team is playing in the tournament.  In other words, you cannot use club pass in some tournaments.

This is straight from Bethesda tournament rules as an example.

B. No player shall play for more than one team during the tournament.

C. Players must participate on their primary (or secondary if the primary team is not playing) team if they are registered for the tournament. Players can participate as secondary carded, as long as their primary team is not registered in the tournament. Exception: U9 through U11 players can participate on another team from within their own association and not be considered a guest player.[/quote]

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