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Apologists for Pearson and CC? One could flip that silly question on its head and ask why are anti-CCers shilling for the Koch brothers?

And don't they realize that there are also actual, real people with genuine problems and frustrations with the anti-CC agenda? [/quote]

That Koch brothers comment is a red herring.  You claim that the anti Common Core people are all right wing nuts--yet there are plenty of people on here who have given good arguments against Common core.  I have yet to see any reasons to support it.  Why do you have problems with the people who are pointing out the issues with Common Core.  You have yet to substantiate your support of it.  What is it going to accomplish?  How is it going to make things better?  It sounds to me like your support of it is purely political.  Ironic, since Jeb Bush is one of its biggest supporters.

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It's not a red herring at all.  The Koch Brothers pumped millions of dollars into their front organizations like the Heartland Institute to come up with a set of talking points, which have been echoed and repeated all over this thread over and over again - despite not having any actual data or evidence to support them.  Red herrings?  Throwing Jeb Bush out there is a red herring, because he's a moderate, not a hardline conservative like the Koch's and their Tea Party agenda.

What does it accomplish?  It creates consistent frameworks for content and curriculum, it enables portability and interoperability of curriculum and content for teachers, students, and content providers, it establishes baselines and assessments for comparative and longitudinal analysis, and it has certainly renewed a lot of dialogue around what education should be and what our expectations should be - it does quite a few things, none of which are by any stretch a "waste."  Meanwhile, where is the evidence that getting rid of standards and testing will accomplish anything, let alone improve things?  100+ pages have already shown there isn't any evidence that it will, unless all you are looking at is cost and you really don't care about education.[/quote]

I'm the Democrat who came to her own conclusions well before I heard the Koch idiot Ayn Rand worshippers were in on this.  I moved here from a very liberal country, Canada, where there is no national high-stakes testing or national standards, just good authentic creative fun teaching.  Kids do better on high school achievement there by the way.  I think it's early days to be so passionately expounding the virtues of the PARCC testing and CC, especially if you are basing it on the fact that your kid didn't find it to be a big deal.  Why do you care so much?  Did you write the PARCC?  Your spouse?  Your mother?  Your neighbor?  Why??[/quote]

Um, your very liberal Canada does in fact have national education standards and a standardized curriculum going back to 1988.[/quote]

Ummm.  Sure there may be standards but this does not manifest in practice.  Teaching is authentic, there is no pawning off responsibility to standards or adminstrators.  Standardized testing occurs only once or twice before HS, at least in the province where we were living.  Not TWENTY (at least).  Moving here was a SHOCK and I could not believe parents stand for this and there hasn't been an uprising against NCLB. [/quote]

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