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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous]
Oh boy,  I really don't have time for this. Arabic is one of the richest and most complex languages in the world. Every word in Arabic has different meanings, multiple meanings, and this is why every translation of the Quran will be somewhat different. Plus the Quran was written in a unique literary style and in Parables, so every person will interpret any verse the way they understand and this is why Some Muslims believe the Quran can only truly be understood only in Arabic. And this is probably why all Muslims techie their prayers in Arabic to capture the true sense behind the words.

The Quran itself states that: Allah says in Chapter 3 Surah Al Imran verse 7:

"It is Allah,  Who sent down this Quran to you.  (There are two kinds of verses in the Book.)   In it are verses Basic or Fundamental (of established meanings which can be easily understood),  and they are the essence or foundation of the Book.   And the other verses are Allegorical or Ambiguous.  Those in whose hearts is perversity will always go  for the Allegorical or Ambiguous verses,  seeking discord and trying to search for their hidden meanings.   None,  except Allah,  knows their real meanings(Ta’aweel)!  In contrast to them,  those who are firmly grounded in knowledge,  say: “We believe in them all, because all of them are from our Lord."

The verse you quoted with the interpretation of Yusuf Ali, his interpretation of the word was "molested". Every other translation I've seen used the word 'annoyed', 'abused", "not hurt" ect  or some other variant . But that is besides the point.  [b]All scholars  who support hijab are unanimous and I mean ALL that the main reason for a muslim woman to wear a hijab is because it is  prescribed by God. Not because of your husband,  your father,  your mother, fear of being molested.  If you wear the hijab, you should wear it because Allah  said so, period. [/b]Just like we pray 5 times a day because Allah said so,  no if and but about it. [/quote]

Just curious. Are all these scholars men?

So I suppose the girls who take off the veil away yfrom their parents have a long long way to go on their spiritual journey?[/quote]

+1. I'd like to see the survey data these male scholars were relying on to support their claims that all niqab wearing is done voluntarily. Or, were they just going with their guts on this one?

Also. "Annoyed," "abused," "not hurt," all sound bad to me. "Not hurt" is arguably the same as or worse than "molested." None of these says "spiritual journey."

Finally. You called me a "liar" for criticizing your statement that all women wear the niqab as part of a spiritual journey. Now you're saying the same thing again, and you're even bringing "all, I mean ALL, scholars" to back up the point. Which is it?[/quote]

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