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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link.  There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base.  Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink[/quote]

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school.  No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.[/quote]

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school [b]anywhere[/b], much less to a school co-located on a military base.  But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...[/quote]
You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can [/quote]

+1  No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools.  Stop trying to justify this incident.[/quote]

No one expected the [i]US military[/i] to bomb elementary schools.  And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on.  And it's new.  But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial.   Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools.  Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc.  They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity.  And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability?  We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US.  Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless.  And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional.  It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars.  Our whole global community system is broken.[/quote]

Why wouldn't you expect the US military to attack a school? The were reported strikes in schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Why should Iran be any exception [/quote]

I just asked AI to give a synthesis in response to your accusation - the response is that accidents happen, but to ascribe intentionality and evil intent or to claim it's a widespread and frequent phenomenon to be expected significantly misses the mark:

[quote]Short answer: no—there is not evidence of widespread, independently corroborated cases where the U.S. military knowingly and deliberately attacked schools as schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, or Yemen. What does exist is a grim record of schools being hit, sometimes with very high civilian casualties, in strikes the U.S. has variously described as mistakes, bad intelligence, misidentification, or collateral damage near what it claimed were legitimate military targets.

In all of those theaters, you can find documented incidents where school buildings, madrassas, or school buses were struck—often investigated by the UN, human‑rights groups, or journalists. In some cases, those investigations concluded the U.S. failed to take sufficient precautions, used flawed intelligence, or acted with reckless disregard for civilian life. But that is still legally and factually different from proven, intentional targeting of a known school as a school. There is no established pattern—backed by independent investigations—that the U.S. ran a campaign of deliberately attacking schools knowing they were purely civilian educational facilities.[/quote]

No established pattern of deliberate targeting of schools.  That's based on broad independent investigations by the UN and human rights groups and journalists.

The US conducted tens of thousands of airstrikes in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen.  Comparatively, the numbers of claimed schools that were hit are barely double digit, out of tens of thousands of airstrikes.  That's a 0.1% error rate which is significantly lower than any military in history.  Is it excusable?  No.  Could it be better?  Yes.  But for any critic also engaged in warfare to claim some kind of moral superiority is an absolute farce.  [/quote]

A bit amusing how you're defending the same regime that just attacked a desalination plant, a bank, and an oil field that will result in one of the biggest ecological disasters in recent history reminiscent of a dirty bomb where the population will be poisoned and experience harms like cancer for decades to come. [/quote]

Dude.  You need better news sources.  Iran has bombed desalinization plants, oilfields and refineries all across the Gulf states. As for banks, Iran hasn't used missiles but much more insidious measures like cyber attacks on US, Israeli and Gulf State banks and financial networks.   [/quote]

Let's not forget about the widespread global economic and environmental disaster unfolding as a result of Iran choking off the Strait of Hormuz, cutting nations off from needed food supplies, from needs for fertilizer and other crucial goods. Iran is indiscriminately firing on vessels.  Even Chinese tankers turned back, after seeing vessels ahead of them being put at risk.  India is already in an LPG shortage crisis.  Iran is at war with the entire world.[/quote]

The foundation of your comment is that Iran has no right, none, to self-defense.
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Since when does legitimate self defense include firing on random civilian vessels?

Do you even listen to yourself or bother to think this stuff through before posting?[/quote]

Since the time our government on Israel's interest bombed a school and also torpedo an unarmed ship returning from a friendly summit![/quote]

Were you this concerned when Iran was murdering thousands of its own people who were protesting their murderous regime?  You know, before the war even started?  Funny how we never hear about that from you disingenuous clowns.
DP[/quote]

So, the regime murdering Iranian people gives US and Israel permission to murder Iranian children? 
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The Iranian regime knowingly and intentionally targeted and murdered 30,000 of its own unarmed civilians and is now raining thousands of unguided cluster munitions targeting civilians all across Israel.   [/quote]

The source of these 30,000+ figures (which is over 4x other estimates) are all affiliated with groups actively involved for the past 47 years in the effort to topple the Ayatollahs.

Even one death is horrible, of course, but let’s not pretend that Pahlavi’s crew making claims like these make them true. They may be true, but my sense is that they are dubious (at best).

Regardless, these 30,000+ claims are continually used to derail analysis of what WE have done. We don’t need Whataboutism games going back and forth to examine the facts and accept responsibility for our actions. Disingenuous is too kind of a word to describe those engaging in this scheme.[/quote]

DP.  Every reliable western news source has reported in the range of 20-30,000 protesters dead.  You can't seriously be claiming that western, mainstream sources are spewing out propaganda, while at the same time believing *Iranian* sources??  I mean, seriously?

Also, funny that we haven't seen any mourning over the burials of these thousands of protesters, yet all Iran can talk about are the 140 girls who died in the airstrike.  Could that be because IRAN was responsible for murdering thousands of their OWN citizens, but would like the world to forget?  [/quote]

I bet you’re the type of person who discounts USSR’s civilian suffering inflicted by the Nazi occupation because “well Stalin killed plenty of his own so what’s a few more?”[/quote]

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