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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I def think the kid was strongly influenced negatively by parents who were nightmares and both contributed to this tragedy.  FOR SURE.

But I think the kid in surrendering fairly easy prob did it to get attention as horrible and wrong as it is.  The dad messed up most by buying him a weapon as a gift (WTF?!!) but the mom not being there and having a loss of stability in both parents equally messed up - definitely this is not all on the boy but on everyone around him.  Sounds also like he was bullied by other kids.

As the poster child of a dysfunctional family myself, it's really really hard to come out of it in one piece.  Esp in these times with guns, social media, etc.  I can see how that kid was so messed up he didn't know where he was.  No excuse and the parents 10000% for sure need to be punished but on some level, this was a tragedy more than what happened at the school and a tragedy for that entire family living the way they were.[/quote]

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This kid was practically raising himself. It's like he was feral or something. It's so awful, and he never stood a chance. Is it only the sperm donor being charged? I know he's the one who purchased the gun, but I don't understand why the egg donor isn't being charged.[/quote]

We don't know what she did.  It is not against the law to be a drug addict or a bad parent.[/quote]

I understand that. But he's being charged with cruelty to children, and I wondered if that also related to anything she participated in. She sounds horrible. You think she wasn't complicit in this?[/quote]

He’s being charged with cruelty to children related to the 8 children his son shot with the gun he bought his son. It has nothing to do with his wife.  [/quote]

My question/thought/etc. is that the mother is still in that house, allowed the gun purchase, put up with it, kept it in the house, all of that. I know he purchased the gun, but they both had it in the house. [/quote]

The mother was not allowed to contact the father directly and had to go through an intermediary so I doubt she was in the house.[/quote]

She was too busy dtinking and using drugs. [/quote]

So is every hobo on the street, it's not a crime.   :roll:  It's only a crime if she personally purchased the gun and handed it to the kid after being confronted by FBI for the threats kids made.  Which is the reason the father was arrested from what I gather.

Bad parenting isn't a crime and isn't even always going to produce a maladjusted adult, not to mention a criminal or a psycho.  Many kids who grow up with bad parents turn out not only ok but even achieve success against odds.

If mother didn't know about the kid's tendencies and didn't facilitate weapon procurement she isn't guilty.   It's insane to think she is.  By same logic every parent of every kid who killed someone should go to prison, why does it matter what the weapon of the murder is? If parenting is the cause of the kid committing a crime like some think, then any kid committing a crime did so because of their parents and parents should be incarcerated.

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I personally think going after the father is cruel. He had a wife for a drug addict and it sounds like he was doing his best under the circumstances. The kid denied the allegations and, most importantly, the FBI let it go. There was no reason for the father to think his son was going to do that.  [/quote]

There is probably more information than we know about. Gun could have been improperly stored or other signs were ignored. Can a 14 year old even own a gun or is it technically the father’s? [/quote]

We can’t go on “probablies” here.  FBI failed.  Why should father think son is dangerous if FBI don’t?[/quote]

The FBI identified the kid then handed it off to local authorities.[/quote]

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