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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's pretty much legally impossible for the Democrats to put anyone else on the state ballots at this point. Any attempt to swap candidates will be met with a raft of lawsuits in the state courts. Even if Joe Biden resigns and Harris becomes POTUS 47 and she takes over the campaign apparatus and funds (legally allowed since she is named on FEC documents), she will likely face lawsuits in state courts because the names "Joe Biden/Kamala Harris" are on the ballot. States may need to change laws to add a new VP candidate to the Democratic ticket. All of it will be challenged in court and then we will have the very undemocratic process of the Supreme Court saying who gets to run for POTUS/VP. In short, this is concerning because states do not appear to have a seamless mechanism for replacing a candidate on the ballot if someone dies after they have won the state nominating race. It is effectively an unconstitutional extra requirement to someone running for POTUS or VP. It's a much bigger problem than Joe Biden. [/quote] Your assertion makes no sense. Biden is not an indentured servant and can drop out.[b] Are you saying if he were to be hit by a bus, the Democratic Party would have no nominee?[/b] And if this were true, no Democrat would be suggesting that Biden withdraw his candidacy. [/quote] There is no nationalized standard to replace a POTUS candidate on a state ballot. It would be a 50 state process that would come down to interpretations of election laws, lawsuits, judges, and eventually the Supreme Court. For example, I just took a look at Florida's election laws. There are no provisions that outline what happens when a nominated candidate either dies prior to the November election or backs out of the race AFTER winning the state primary. Conceivably, "Joe Biden/Kamala Harris" would still be printed on Florida's ballots. Absent the Florida legislature amending its election laws and the Governor signing said law, the DNC would need to try to run a write-in campaign for a new POTUS nominee. And then you're going to get tons of issues with that - is the writing legible? How is write-in done with voting machines? Etc. So yes, I am saying the Democratic Party would effectively have no nominee in most states. We're stuck with Biden. Accept it and move on. [/quote] If we are stuck with Biden, then can you explain how the 1968 Democratic National Convention was able to appoint a new candidate? That convention took place August 26 to August 29, 1968.[/quote] Johnson dropped out after winning only 1 write-in primary in NH. There were only 11 other state primaries before the rest were scuttled. RFK won five of those primaries but was then assassinated. Eugene McCarthy won six. So, in short, no one had enough delegates to be the Democratic Presidential nominee going into the 1968 convention. Whereas Joe Biden is the nominee with 99% of the pledged delegates in the first round of voting. Election laws have changed since 1968. There are now more deadlines to meet, more rules to qualify for the primary and November ballots, more filings, etc. Look at Ohio with its crazy candidate deadline in early August, before the President's party can even host a nominating convention. [/quote] Without more conclusive evidence about election law, I don't believe Biden can't withdraw his candidacy and a new one can't be appointed at the Democratic National Convention. This is just another DNC spin similar to the cold/international travel talking points. Biden didn't allow other qualified candidates to run in the primary. I'd rather lose via a dozen judicial rulings not allowing a qualified candidate on the ballot rather than compromise my values electing a senile old man. P.S. Biden wasn't going to win Ohio anyway.[/quote]
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