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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't agree with the OP, we need to dig deeper into a lot of these youth to see how we can support them as a society. The recurring same policies and tactics are no longer working and therefore we cannot keep asking why longer-harsher prison sentences are not working. We need to work on a new revolutionary idea in criminal enforcement. Broken children become broken adults when coupled with generational trauma.

There is enough money in DC, but not enough social workers. [/quote]

No, that’s not it.  Harsh sentences absolutely do work, they just have to be consistently enforced.  Have you been in Singapore? 
Of course, it should be a multi-pronged approach.  Consistent enforcement is just one aspect, and that must include the adults around these kids.

I heard a social worker on the radio this morning lamenting that he’s visited the kids’ homes who are repeatedly stealing cars and engaging in criminal activities. 
His complaint: There were drugs in the home, and no food in the fridge.

To this I would say that these youths then should be removed from these environments that are not homes.  
More social workers are not going to make a difference in these situations. These kids are already eligible for free food, free healthcare, and free education.
Support systems that kids in other countries could only dream of!  Yet it does not help at all, it has no positive impact. Why is that?
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Things not earned have no value.  When you work to earn your food you appreciate. When you work to pay your rent or mortgage you are invested in the neighborhood.[/quote]

Exactly, as the other poster said Singapore has some draconian laws, but hey they work. They ensure that crime is low. And keep in mind that Singapore is a very very expensive country/city to live in and has its own problems with poverty, but those people don't turn to crime.

As an immigrant from a country where it's hard to make something of yourself, whenever I hear people here complain about the "injustice" and etc, I simply scoff at that. I am sorry, you) they were born in the US, which provides people with boundless opportunities. It is on them to make something of themselves. And even then, they have many programs to support  (as you said, kids in many countries would dream of that), yet those people turn to crime and people keep complaining about "systemic injustices" . I am sorry at some point it is a them problem, and If they turn to crime (especially violent crime), I am sorry but the full force of the law should be brought down upon them (max punishment, keeping them in jail before their trials, etc). [/quote]

No thanks, I don't want to live in a back water 3rd world country like Singapore. Max punishment is not going to work because crime will still happen, it just means more underground deals and dirtier politicians who you think are keeping you safe but are not. If your country was so awesome in justice, equity and fairness you would not have moved to America. Obviously, as the news pointed out, the man was having a mental health crisis. Apart of fairness is equity and a social net. Countries without such can expect to fail and have the illest in society disrupt their peace. 
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I am pretty sure you couldn’t find Singapore on a map and have no idea anything about the country. Surveillance by cctv is everywhere and crime is harshly punished. As a result citizens give up some freedoms but live in a society where they don’t have to worry about getting randomly robbed and assaulted, walking over human feces, getting harassed by mentally unstable people, getting carjacked by a 13 year old, etc.

In the United States the car theft rate is 287 per 100,000 while in Singapore it is 1 per 100,000. In DC it is 651 per 100,000.

Singapore is the third safest country in the world. [/quote]

A crappy Toyota Corolla in Singapore costs $120K because the government doesn’t want people to drive. If you give up freedom for security, you’ll pay for it everyday of your life.

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The US gives citizens a wide degree of freedom. 
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My god you sound entitled and make no sense at the same time. Singapore is not taking away people's freedom to drive, yeah cars are taxed to incentive people to use cars less, but that is not the same thing as "taking away freedom to drive". If you can buy one you can drive one (and many in SG do because they are educated and hard working enough to be able to afford it). But the benefit of fewer cars is less pollution and traffic. Moreover, public transportation in Singapore is excellent so no need to have a car. If you got out of your bubble you would realize people in many countries don't need cars (for example many European cities) due to excellent public transportation.

Let me guess on your freedom charade, you are also a supported of the dumb 2nd amendment and right to bear arms? I am sure you would be happy to sacrifice other people's right to safe environments (for example sage schools) just so you could carry a gun?

Last, on your point on privacy, in today's world there is no such thing. You have a cellphone and on the internet? Then you have no privacy already, these companies know everything about you...so your point in that makes no sense. [/quote]

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