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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I want a job where I’m overworked but am compensated for it. My friends who aren’t teachers work a lot but make over $150k per year. I make $75k. Maybe I’d make that much if I charged for my OT. The job cannot be done with one 45 minute prep period per day. Most days I get zero planning due to meetings and other BS. [/quote]

Teachers seem to have gross misunderstandings about pay in comparable professions. [b]Most people with degrees in the arts, humanities, and social sciences aren't making $150k a year. [/b]Not even those with masters degrees. Add in the health/retirement benefits, and the ability to earn more money over the summer (or save money on child care), and teachers get compensated pretty well.

But I acknowledge the hours are long. We do need to find a way to give teachers more prep time.[/quote]

This is a weird qualification. First, STEM teachers exist and don't have a completely different salary scale. Second, teaching in most states requires a professional degree or certification in *teaching*. I feel like you're trying to say teachers are only comparable to people with arts and humanities degrees, despite there not being a direct relationship, because you think both have lower earning power. Or maybe because you think teaching is an impractical career choice, which...well, isn't that exactly the problem? [/quote]

Well, first of all, I think STEM and SpEd should be on different scales. It’s the arts, humanities, and social science teachers stopping that.

Second, we’re talking about the type of profession, not just the degree. Teaching, even STEM teaching, is much more closely linked to the arts, humanities, and social sciences than jobs in math, science, engineering, and medicine.

[b]Third, often the degrees aren't even the same. And even when they are, someone going into math education is going to be taking a different set of classes than someone planning to go into an actuarial, engineering, analysis, or finance career.[/b][/quote]

This is a really weird comparison.  Those going into engineering and finance make WAY WAY less than a math teacher with a Mathematics BS.  An engineering degree generally doesn't even get you a minor in math.  I've never met a math major who couldn't grasp engineering concepts.  I've met plenty of engineers who couldn't grasp many mathematical concepts.

That said, engineers dont make 150k salaries for a BS unless they have lots of experience or very specialized knowledge.  But I believe everyone is overworked these days.  In differnt ways.  The key is finding the way to be overworked that you mind the least.  [/quote]

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