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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]People who hate the free loaders will love this one.

We were short on timers and marshals for our B meet last night. Team rep sends out an email this morning thanking specific people who "stepped up" to volunteer at the last minute. One person who "stepped up" is a parent on the team who, along with their spouse, NEVER volunteers at meets. Literally some to every meet (A and B) and just watches.  I am pretty pissed about this. Had people who were clearly there and available volunteered in the first place the rep would not have had to go around asking for last minute volunteers and someone who steps up when forced doesn't deserve praise. [/quote]

Lol. Yes there are always the assholes who you can see just watching meets and enjoying concessions. 
When they do a job under duress, you do have to praise them like the little kindergartener assholes that they are.

Great job asshole! You did the minimum! Couldn’t have done it without you. 😘[/quote]

Truth is nobody knows what everyone else does to contribute to the swim team, or to the swim club or to the community at large or what else they have going on in life besides this activity and one little position in one sub-activity.  The fact you all can get so uptight about this is pathetic.  Many pro-OP's-comments posters have talked about how much they like their volunteer role because they get to meet kids or parents or whatever.  Newsflash, some folks are introverts and it's hell to be in those environments.

Many of the jobs are the minimum, ergo why does it require so many or the product at all?
Marshal--doesn't really require any work but title-wise does serve a purpose
Ribbon person--requires dexterity but overall it's an unnecessary activity. Where's my DC's ribbon for scoring the third most points in basketball last night?
Tie-dye person--pointless activity and more appropriate for the pool members not for the swim team
Pancake breakfast person--same as above
Rootbeer float person--same as above

Perhaps leave A meets to timing etc and leave B meets to a simply who finished first, second and third in each heat. That doesn't require timers.  Why do B meets, which are developmental require timing?

People can be placed into heats randomly or swim teams/coaches can make sure to rank/seed their players in advance so the highest ranked players are heated with the other team's highest ranked players. Consolidate time trials across multiple clubs if necessary and hold those at the beginning middle and end of the season if necessary if someone wants to see their progress from the start of the season to the end of the season. Times also could be taken among clubs at their own practices, and, no, that wouldn't require 3 timers either. [/quote]

in life besides this activity and one little position in one sub-activity.  The fact you all can get so uptight about this is pathetic.  Many pro-OP's-comments posters have talked about how much they like their volunteer role because they get to meet kids or parents or whatever.  Newsflash, some folks are introverts and it's hell to be in those environments.

Marshal: made sure masks were on at a mask-mandated pool, no running, kids are walking the right direction, people are quiet for starts.

Ribbon: ribbons are not necessary for b meets (they are for A), but it’s an important function. The reason is that the meets have the info on the back that tells the swimmer the date, event snd time so the swimmer can easily know what his last best time was. Did he beat his seed time?  Your idea to do 1st-3rd ribbons only won’t work because, as said before, NVSL requires them for a meets, and for b meets, sometimes the first or second place swimmers are swimming for exhibition purposes only so the third place winner actually gets the first place ribbon. As someone else said, how swims happen at b meets can change the line up at the a meet. A kid who swims well on a Monday, may boot another kid off the a meet in a stroke. Without times, we can’t do that. Same thing with strong swimmers having an idea what strokes to pick at divisionals. A strong swimmer might be placed all summer in free and back for A meets but may want to try breast at divisionals. If b meets aren’t timed, the kid has no idea how he could place without the b meet times.

Shirts/pancakes/root beer- this is what makes the experience fun for YOUR kid. If your kid doesn’t like it, don’t sign up. My kid played baseball. We all had to bring snacks at the end a few times each month. Did we “need” to?  No…but my kid ate the snacks and enjoyed it so I was shopping for snacks because my kid participated. I don’t think the idea is to pare a kid’s activity down to the barebones so it is a 60 minute activity and no extraneous fun added in.

For you to suggest things like combining time trials with other teams (so a 2.5 hour meet becomes a 4-6 hour meet) or to have time trials spread over the beg, middle and end of the season (which makes no sense), shows you don’t understand what time trials are for. Timing someone at practice is not the same as at a meet. Is there a stroke a turn judge and timers to ensure the time and form were accurate?

I think you would do better with some swim lessons for your kids. Zero volunteering, no obligations when it doesn’t work for tour schedule, no jobs you don’t want or understand, no shorts and food, etc. your kids get pool time. Try that. [/quote]

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