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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How would that be eugenics?[/quote]

Eugenics was the science/belief in creating the "healthiest" humans possible, healthy babies support healthy families that support healthy society. The movement also believed that most of society's ills (lawlessness, alcoholism, disabilities, mental disorders, inability to keep jobs, being poor) were inheritable traits and ran in families. So if you prevent those families from reproducing, there will be less of those traits being inherited and less people with those traits, and therefore the rate of alcoholism will go down, poverty will decrease, crime will go down, etc., by fact of those with the undesirable traits being unable to pass the traits along because they aren't having children.

Sanger wanted birth control in the hands of poor people, not because she was a huge believer in women taking control of their own healthcare and reproductive health, but because she believed in the eugenic theory of a stronger society will occur if the poor people stop having poor babies who will then turn into poor adults.

Sangers's views on birth control are not a secret or her views on eugenics.
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LOL I know what eugenics is. How does providing all people with birth control that they can or cannot take willingly qualify as eugenics. Don’t we supply free condoms, etc to people? How is this different?[/quote]

Same thing with PGD-IVF

same thing with prenatal testing.

We don’t know anything about the families. Perhaps the mother of one or both of the teens didn’t want to get pregnant and if she had had access to birth control then she wouldn’t have gotten pregnant but she did get pregnant and has this kid. Maybe she was a bad mother. Maybe she was a lazy mother.  Maybe she was herself is a car jacket and taught her child a life of crime.

But probably not. We don’t know. But it is eugenic in nature to have the opinion that by allowing the mother to procreate she would give birth to a menace to society and should have been stopped.

I mean why not just sterilize all poor women?  They used to do that too.

So you see an AA teen, who probably has an AA motherF and your response is that the AA should have been given birth control to stop this crime from occurring?!  Be careful with that slippery slope. [/quote]

Hey, I'm not one of the pps who says that poor people should be on birth control. I'm just asking what is wrong with providing everyone with free birth control so that financial means have nothing to do with the ability to acquire it? Wouldn't it be unfair to prevent people from having access to birth control because they can't afford it?[/quote]

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