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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm not going to say there isn't an advantage to graduating from a top ranked undergrad school for applying to law school, but the graduates still have to produce the high stats.  The thing is, the graduates of those schools are more likely to produce those stats.  This isn't because of anything the school did, but because the kid was smart enough to get accepted there in the first place.  Here are average 2017 LSAT scores and GPAs for applicants for selected undergrad schools mentioned here plus Yale.  You decide which ones are the most likely to produce the 169 LSAT and 3.89 GPA for UVA Law or the 173 LSAT and 3.92 GPA for Yale Law:

Yale:  167.5 LSAT, 3.72 GPA

WashU:  164.1 LSAT, 3.65 GPA
Tufts:  164.5 LSAT, 3.62 GPA
Emory:  160.6, 3.51 GPA

UVA: 160.8 LSAT, 3.43 GPA
W&M 161.2 LSAT, 3.44 GPA

The kid that could have gone to Yale would likely get close to 167.5 and 3.72 wherever they chose for undergraduate, and where they chose wouldn't make a huge difference as long as it is reputable.[/quote]
This is excellent.  Where is this from?  I would like to look at other undergrads.  Is the average for an applicant applying from that undergrad?  
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[b]This line of thinking - that the undergrad led to the production of those averages rather than the students - is misguided.  Correlation is not causation.[/b]

I don't remember where I saw these types of numbers before so I can't point to the source, but I was below for GPA and far above for LSAT compared to the averages reported for my undergrad institution.  My undergrad had absolutely nothing to do with how I scored on the LSAT (lo those many years ago).  Heck, per the above quoted numbers, my LSAT was higher than the average reported for Yale (lol).  It's a test of logic ability and reading comp, not a college-level achievement test.[/quote]

You didn't read the post carefully.  My point was that people are assuming the undergraduate institution makes a big difference.  I'm not saying it doesn't make a difference, but a successful applicant to a top law school will still have to present the stats, and they'll likely get similar stats regardless of where they choose to go.
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Right but it does show that smarter kids go to higher ranked institutions so they do better GPA and LSAT wise because they were smart enough to get in there.  Here Correlation is important even if it is not causation.  [/quote]

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