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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]https://news.sky.com/story/israel-orders-closure-of-dublin-embassy-blaming-extreme-anti-israel-policy-of-irish-government-13274114 Ireland is anti semitic and pro Hamas [/quote] Ireland is anti racism and prosocial.[/quote] And anti-genocide. History will laud South Africa and Ireland for their humanitarian stance. Israel will never recover the soft power it has lost through its ruthless, immoral warfare. [/quote] Yet Israel will still be here and prospering decades from now, and the Palestinians will still be living in relative squalor, brought on by their own "leadership" and endless pursuit of grievances which long ago lost the interest of the rest of the world apart from the sympathizers here. Periodic acts of terror will occur, will change nothing, and the sympathizers will cry about how unjust the entirely justified response is. The terrorists will continue to be squashed, and civilians the hide among will continue to suffer, and nothing will change. The Palestinians have had their butts kicked in every conflict they started in the last 75 years, there's no reason to think that will ever change. They will peirodically attack Israel and they will predictably suffer the consequences just they is happening now. You can wail and gnash your teeth all you like about the nature of the Israeli response; it's the result of Palestinian terror, plain and simple. No terror, no response to terror. That equation is clear enough. [/quote] Every bully says exactly what you are saying. They say "might is right," and many of them believe they are untouchable because their Daddy (in this case, the U.S.) is going to let them get away with their outrageous behavior and will protect them from consequences. White South Africans used to do the same thing. The problem for Israel is that the world is moving on. More and more American taxpayers object to funding a genocide. Many countries support South Africa's genocide complaint. Many organizations and individuals believe Israel is behaving unjustly and are acting accordingly. There is a sea change in global opinion on the issue, and Israel will not be able to survive indefinitely the growing disapproval, boycotts, sanctions, and possible military retaliations. The world can change very quickly. I find it obscene that you brag about the Palestinians getting "their butts kicked in every conflict they started." Have you absolutely no compassion for people who were ethnically cleansed during the Nakba, forced out of their homes at gunpoint and driven across borders to make way for colonial settlers with Messianic and megalomanic views about their ethnic superiority and privilege? Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians lost almost everything they owned. You don't think Israelis started that conflict? What might have been acceptable to many in 1948 disgusts many in 2024. Personally, I'd love to see those billions we U.S. taxpayers are stripped of to kill little Palestinian kids used for something more altruistic. We could use that money so much for productively. [/quote] No, no sympathy for people who choose violence over and over again over decades, achieve nothing, and keep at it in the hope that next time they'll be successful in wiping Israel from the face of the Earth. They lose every conflict they start, and their sympathizers focus on the repercussions they bring upon themselves, bemoaning that those consistently futile acts of terror consistently result in damage to themselves. Oddly, there's little outcry about Israeli losses to terror from them, just self-centered self-pity for how they are unable, year after year, to kill, wound, or take hostages without getting smacked back down, hard. “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results”, usually attributed to Albert Einstein. Seems apropos when looking at Palestinian behavior. Maybe they should try something other than violence and terror? [/quote] Israel was built on terrorism. It continues to perpetrate terrorism in the region. For example, it allows its settlers to terrorize Palestinians, it terrorizes Gaza and has done so for decades, and it is terrorizing Syria. It routinely violates international law. It is high time Israel is held accountable for ITS terrorism. It is Israel that needs to be smacked down hard. What do the Palestinians have except their resistance? Do you really think a small percentage of those orphaned children in Gaza -- some of those who saw their family members murdered and lost their homes and were deliberately starved -- are NOT going to grow up vengeful? Do you think terrorism didn't eventually work in South Africa and Rhodesia/Zimbabwe? There will never be peace until there is justice, and there is no denying that the Palestinian situation is desperately unjust. Israel will eventually evolve beyond the lawless, bullying, rogue state that it currently is, just as other countries have before it. And there will be more and more BDS as well as more asymmetrical warfare. Several of my friends and I boycott Israeli products where possible. The BDS movement is growing. Ireland is calling for sanctions and an international arms embargo on Israel, and several other nations will follow. There is growing pressure in the U.S. to reduce aid to Israel. Today's college students, who are protesting genocide and apartheid, will be tomorrow's leaders. You obviously think Israel should be allowed to hurt people, steal from them, kill them if convenient without any backlash or punishment. That's not the way the world works. Hitler and Pol Pot got away with similar behavior TEMPORARILY. Eventually, people are going to fight back, and evil regimes eventually piss off so many people that they find themselves isolated. [/quote] No. No is a full sentence by the way. [/quote] Get it out. Get it all out. You probably won’t have time for pithy narcissism.[/quote] Same posts over and over for close to a year and a half. Over and over again. [/quote] These are paid posters, what do you expect. Ham-a$$ trolls from the Gaza troll farm.[/quote] Zionists out here accusing others of engaging in the Israeli national pastime of deceit and dishonesty, what a wild time we’re living in! Try not kill any more U.S. sailors, Israeli-first “Americans” - one of these days, the SOP of looking the other way is going to come to an abrupt end.[/quote] Over and over and over again...Israel is evil to the core, Jews are liars by default, America is Israel's stupid pawn, the world will punish Israel and the U.S. for their alliance, etc. Yawn, rinse and repeat.[/quote] Way to create straw men and dodge responding to the arguments.[/quote] Those are not arguments. They are unsupported assertions, framed perjoratively, which completely and absolutely ignore the self-inflicted nature of the Palestinians' problems in favor of an exclusive focus on the consequences of the actions they supported and those among them took. [/quote] Yes totally their fault their land was stolen from them and then an apartheid forced down their throats, how dare they resist. They should totally live in their Jim Crow homeland![/quote] Israel is a deceptive country. They claim the problem will be all solved if Palestinians all moved to Jordan or Syria as if they arent sneakily taking over territory in those places too. Israel is not liked by anybody Muslim, Christian, Shia over there. They actually are the one common factor everyone from the Beirut diplomat to the poor farmer can all agree on. They did not come in as a good neighbor committed to peace and never have come in good faith. The 1947 UN partition plan had Israeli brain trust promising that if Arabs agreed to the state, that they would still find a way to spark a war and conquer the Palestinian state anyway. What reason do they give for Palestinians to trust a deal with them? Israelis pressured Bill Clintons deal down to what they wanted, and then they blamed Arafat for backing down even though Ehud Olmert admitted he wouldnt have signed it if he were a Palestinian. They are always playing tricks, but Netanyahu isnt their smooth operator. He has two left feet and everyone can see his cards miles before he strikes. In 2023, days before 10/7, he brought a map to the UN Gen. Assembly showing Greater Israel encompassing Syria, Lebanon, Jordan. He gave all these countries a year in advance to prepare. Israel's arrogance that they are smarter than others is their achilles heel. They are not. Especially with Netanyahu in charge. Assad can start a new career in Moscow back as an opthalmologist. What can Netanyahu do if Israelis turn on him? He lost the Democrats under Obama, who is the real smooth operator of Democratic US politic at this time.[/quote]
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