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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ok, it’s official.  I can’t stand Ellie.  She is the most sanctimonious ahole.  We see in this episode what a tremendous father figure Joel was to her - yet when he tells her he saved her because he loves her, she says she can’t forgive him for that (not letting them kill her to develop a vaccine).  What a tool.  She owes everything to Joel.  She didn’t deserve him. [/quote]

Yeah, hated her this episode. The way she was so cruel to Gail. Eating cake like an animal. Just wanted to punch her smug face. What an insufferable character[/quote]

Be real: you've hated her the whole show (and posted about it here, at length, after every episode).  :roll:

She wasn't "cruel to Gail". She was cruel to Joel, refusing to keep his "little secret" because it made her realize he'd also lied to her about what happened with the fireflies. It's a time-honored teen tradition, breaking away from your allegiance to your authority figure/parent. It's just that, in this setting, the weight of it, the opportunity for it to be catastrophic instead of just dramatic, is so much greater. But she wasn't doing it to hurt Gail. She wasn't doing it for/against Gail at all. She didn't seem to think what it would mean for Gail. She did it to @ Joel, publicly, because she'd figured out he'd lied about keeping her alive.

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Her actions were cruel. Gail DGAF about her motivations.[/quote]

Cruelty requires motivation to harm. Gail got hurt, the action was damaging, but it wasn't designed to be cruel to Gail. [/quote]

I disagree with you. I think she was so reckless as to the effects of her actions on Gail that it rises to the level of cruelty. She was recklessly indifferent and careless. [/quote]

I don't get the Bella Ramsey or Ellie hate at all. The point is that there are no good guys or bad guys - everyone is making difficult choices in difficult circumstances. Joel's decision to save Ellie and kill the Fireflies could be seen as the most selfish move of all. He couldn't bare to lose another daughter so he saved her for himself.[/quote]

I agree with you. Joel was selfish in his choice to save Ellie. That doesn't make Ellie any less selish.

I think she had a very stunted childhood/life and she's lacking a lot of emotional maturity. That's not her fault, but it does make what she does unlikeable. [/quote]

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