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Thank you.  I certainly don't plan on wearing a hijab and am grateful that I don't have to in the US in order not to be thought of as an immoral/promiscuous person.

[b]I am interested in figuring out what women in the Muslim world think about the hijab[/b] and this thread has told me that there is far from uniformity of opinion for Muslim women.  I am "cheering on" the side that finds this practice objectionable as a societal requirement.  I admit that contingent currently seems to be on the losing side of the debate in the Muslim world.

That being said, like other posters, I defend a hijabi's right to wear the veil in the US should she choose to do so.[/quote]
Are you? Every time a Muslim woman chimed in to explain her reasons for wearing the hijab, [b]you (or other posters who think like you) attempted to dissect her reasoning, argue with her [/b]and do everything in your power to prove her wrong. You weren't interested in her reasons.  You were interested in telling her she's wrong. [/quote]

Different PP here. You're seeing our frustration. [b]We're looking for explanations that make sense to us.[/b] I know your explanations make sense to many Muslims, but you're not talking to Muslims. You're talking to Western women.

If you don't want to talk to Western women, don't come on DCUM. You apparently expect us to accept your explanations at face value, to say "you're right, my hair is nothing but a sexual weapon, and leaving it uncovered will lead to STDs and higher divorce rates than in the Middle East." But we reject this thinking as sexist, the Quran doesn't mention covering hair, and divorce rates in Muslim countries are actually high (also, young brides and polygamy). So we're looking for something better. If you have a reason that isn't sexist, oppressive, and actually out of step with the Quran, I guarantee most of us will slap ourselves on the forehead and say, "Oh, that makes sense!"[/quote]

And you will not find it in Islamic practice, my dear. Thats why you are a non Muslim and Muslims retain their faith. Move on now.[/quote]

Faith in what?  in some entity that obviously places women in a subservient role?

Faith is a cop out.  Because you have no reason for covering, you use the excuse of faith.  But if your holy book is all that and a bag of chips, it would state that women must cover (anywhere from hijab to burqa).  But it doesn't.  Initially, veiling was associated with high status.  You see that in parts of Europe.  My friend, who comes from a very high-ranking family in Spain, showed me very ornate scarves worn by her aunts and grandmothers.  Later it was a way to set them apart from other religions.

So unless you're sporting a very chic and expensive scarf for a night on the town, there is no real need for one - unless, of course, you prefer to be dominated by your tather, husband, brothers and uncles.  [/quote]
Actually, you are no different from a domineering man - you, too, are trying to tell her how to dress.

Are you seriously hoping to win an argument with a Muslim woman and have her accept that she shouldn't be covering? I don't see that happening.  Just fyi. But go ahead.  The soapbox is never empty.[/quote]

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