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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I liked the flexible grouping our LLIV did AAP in 3-6.  The Level IV students were in AAP for all four core classes.  The Level III students were in the AAP core classes for which they qualified and in Gen ED or SPecial Ed for the core subjects in which they qualified for those.  It made for more mixing during the class changes and kids were not necessarily stuck with the same kids in all four classes regardless of where they stood.  [/quote]

This was for the entire year though correct? If so, it's not flexible grouping. Your principal hand picked some kids to attend AAP core classes because there was space and probably did so party to make class sizes more even. This is different than flexible grouping which is often grouping of children on a monthly basis.[/quote]

Okay, whatever it is called, I liked it and it worked very well.  Some students were moved during the year, but not many. [/quote]

Great, but what's your point related to eliminating AAP busing and centers? Those students only go into those classes when there's room in the AAP class and then people get upset because those non level 4 students are hand picked at the discretion of the teacher and principal verses having a set metric like a testing score. It's not a system that can be used across the county without some better parameters for placing kids.[/quote]

The parameters should be:  the kids that test the top 1-2% in both NNAT and COGAT.  The rest should stay at the base schools and be grouped by subject based on their abilities.  End of story!

GBRS scoring by teachers should be eliminated.  [/quote]

First, the majority of AAP kids are in the top 1-2% of the nation. Second, how would that help anything? Do a scenario of a high level, medium level, and title 1 school.[/quote]

The majority of the AAP kids ARE NOT in the top 1-2%.  It's closer to 10-15%.  Then maybe the cut off should be the top 1% or even IQ over 140-145.  [/quote]

The problem will always remain. No matter what the cut off is - the parents of the children that JUST missed the cut off will be upset.  If AAP became that restrictive (hard requirement of 140 or over) then we'd have a group up in arms about being more inclusive and taking more factors (ie GBRS, parental input etc) into account to get a broader picture of the child's abilities/needs.....which is what we have now.[/quote]

Sadly, because of these parents and the schools current system, they are really hurting the kids that are in this range and the ones that really need an actual gifted program.  [/quote]

You really think the students who scored 135-139  hold back the kids 140 and up?  Nah.[/quote]

No, I think the kids who scored 135-139 hold back my kid who is above 150.  [/quote]

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