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I don't know which sura/verse Muslima quoted but if its the one about a woman declaring her oath of allegiance to the Prophet, that is often used in support of the fact that Islam granted women political choices and their opinion counted. It may not show "voting" rights per se, but it shows women were granted the right to align themselves with whatever ruler they wanted. This verse shows they were politically relevant. 
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So you've just agreed it's not about voting per se.  Why did you two get angry when people say that? The surah she quoted as "giving women voting rights" is not about them at all.  It's about women (Muslim women!) from a warring tribe being able to join Muslims in Medina if they meet a very long list of conditions. They have to :

a) be strict monotheists (do not associate anything with Allah)
b) not steal
c) not sleep with anyone they're not supposed to
d) not kill their children
e) not slander
f) not have children with someone else and pretend it's their husbands, and 
e) be disobedient.

And if all of these conditions are met, they are allowed to  move to Medina where Muhammad ruled.

I don't see anything approaching voting rights in this.  It's a background check for new immigrants. Have you ever heard of any preconditions for voting? Are MEN ever asked to prove any of this before pledging allegiance?

Mind you, I'm agnostic on whether Islam gives women voting rights or not. Who knows what it does. What we can say with certainty that the particular verse posted in support of this notion does at all extend women the right to vote in this particular verse.  Why do you get angry when this is pointed out?[/quote]

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