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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The whole thing is a mess but I'm a mom and there are few things more cruel than trying to keep a mom of very young children separated from her children. I will fight pretty much anyone on that, whether we're talking about a woman in prison or a wealthy actress in a mansion in the UK countryside. The bond between moms and babies/small kids is sacrosanct to me and I think it should only be broken if the mom is unwilling or unable to parent. The idea of someone trying to separate me from my kids at that age makes me think very dark thoughts. Joe Jonas is absolute garbage.[/quote] Is he trying to keep them apart, or is he trying to prevent her from attempting to establish the kids primary residence in the UK now that they’re divorcing? Because of those IS cruel and one is protecting his rights as a parent.[/quote] If he is withholding the kids passports, thus forcing Sophie to come to him if she wants to be with her kids, it's cruel. The legalities of a divorce between two people with different nationalities is not my concern -- they should both have thought of that before getting married and having kids. But I just think it's cruel to attempt to separate very young children from their mother. Even if he has a legal justification for it, it's immoral. Their youngest daughter is only like 14 months old. These are babies. It makes me feel physically unwell to think of a mother of children that age being separated from her children, for any reason other than the idea that she is an unfit mother. It's the only reason. Very young children should be with their mother if at all possible.[/quote] Is it better to separate young kids from their father? Their reality is that they are from different countries. And if they’re divorced, they could be parenting on different continents. One of them is going to have more access than the other unless they agree to live in one spot. It’s not crazy to me that if they’d lived on one location since the kids were born and suddenly moved to England as things were going south, that the US born spouse would want to move back where they and their kids had been living. She could just as easily have pressured Joe to move to the UK months ago knowing that they were headed for a divorce and wanting to establish their residence there. [/quote] They were living in LA when their oldest was born and when Covid started. They sold their LA house and bought the Miami house in 2021. Then in 2022, their second daughter was born AND they put their Miami house on the market and sold it. Around the same time, the found a house rental in the UK near Sophie's family and Sophie took a job filming in the UK. Joe came to stay with Sophie in spring 2023. Their older daughter has thus lived in at least three if not more houses, and as many cities, since she was born 3 years ago. Their youngest does not appear to have ever lived anywhere for more than a few months at a time. The family does not have a home base. However, it looks like they secured a house in the UK near Sophie's family, and Sophie took a job there, with the intention of putting down roots there. If Joe wants to back out of that and divorce instead, that's his choice, but the idea that it means that the kids can't go to the UK with their mother because of their "connection" to the US is ludicrous. They have no more connection to the US than they do to the UK. Where even is there home in the US? LA? NY? Not Miami, that house is gone. Joe's been on tour this year and it's not clear where his home base is. Is his argument that it's better for these very young children to live out of hotels in random cities instead of in a permanent home near extended family with their mother?[/quote] Sophie Turner and Joe Jonas' living arrangements revealed: 3 September to 1 October 2022: New York (rental) 1 October to 7 October 2022: Puglia, Italy (rental) 7 October to 15 October 2022: London (rental) 15 October to 22 November 2022 New York (rental) 22 November to 16 December 2022: Miami (parties' property) 16 December to 23 December 2022: London (hotel) 23 December to 27 December 2022: Warwickshire (rental) 27 December to 5 January 2023: London (hotel) 5 January to 9 February 2023: Miami (parties' property) 9 February to 16 February 2023: Lake Tahoe (rental) 16 February to 20 February 2023: Las Vegas (hotel) 20 February to 10 March 2023: Miami (parties' property) 10 March to 25 March 2023: New York (rental) 25 March to 29 March 2023: New York (rental) 29 March to 31 March 2023: Hamptons (friend's house) 31 March to 10 April 2023: New York (rental) Not a lot of time spent in the UK... [/quote] Well that's because you omitted paragraphs after that describing where they lived starting on April 10th, genius. According to Sophie's filing, they shipped the kids stuff to the UK in March and moved there in April, in a long term rental while house shopping and then going under contract for a house in July. So yeah, I guess if you omit the months they lived in the UK, and only list the stuff before that when they were bouncing around, it looks like not a lot of time in the UK :roll: [/quote] This was the entire list in the article that I read: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12545565/Sophie-Turner-Joe-Jonas-filed-divorce-MEDIA-LYING-court-documents.html What a :roll: [/quote] I can't cut and paste but here's the full document the Daily Fail took that from that also details where they lived April-August: https://www.scribd.com/document/672750407/Sophie-Turner-Joe-Jonas I know this might come as a shock to you, but the Daily Mail is an absolute piece of excrement, not worth the pixels it's printed on, and just repeating crap they "report" is like picking trash out of garbage and serving it to houseguests.[/quote] No argument that the Daily Mail is atrocious, but I've been pretty perturbed by the reporting of a lot of news outlets, having actually read the filing. So many quoting things out of context, mischaracterizing things, etc. I should know better, I guess, but it's pretty shocking.[/quote] Agree, though some of those are obviously also planted stories by Joe in which the selected quotes were clearly chosen to frame things in a specific way.[/quote]
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