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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Top Academic D1 means the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, and Hopkins. No way in hell those schools are going to let in a player who can’t get at least a semi-decent score (1350 minimum) on the SAT. [/quote]

Sorry to break it to you, but you are wrong.  For the right player, all these schools will take a lower SAT score than "semi decent 1350 on the SAT" that you note.  [/quote]

No the ivies don’t. They aren’t allowed. Stop spreading a myth. [/quote]

^ This is wrong from personnel experience.  Preferred to be sure.  [/quote]

The myth seems to be that the coaches at high academic schools are focused on high academics when recruiting players....[/quote]

You have no clue what you’re talking about.

Ivies interested in your kid will ask to see her transcript before 9/1. If it is not all As (or close to it) with a challenging course load they will pass on her (unless she is at the very top of their list, a top 50 player, where they may be able to use a specific exemption). Even then she still has to show that she is academically competitive. Coaches do not want to put a commit in a situation where it will be an uphill climb getting through the admissions process. That only puts the player at risk of not being accepted in the middle of their senior year. It also drops a coach’s commit admissions percentage which is something they take seriously (and is a good q to ask during the recruitment process). No ivy coach will guarantee acceptance when a player commits, and a player only puts herself at risk if she commits to a school that is out of her reach.

Ivy coaches will also ask if she’s taken the SAT or ACT. It’s not a deal breaker if she hasn’t taken it by 9/1. But it certainly helps if she has and hit a decent score (1250 or higher that puts her in the ballpark where she can take it several more times over the next 1.5 years to get it at / close / above the 1350 number). If the score is below 1300 they will ask her to take it again and again until she can get it close to 1350.

Ivy coaches don’t want to put their commits in danger of being rejected. They want the admissions process to be as easy as possible for their recruits to avoid that possibility. That’s why they look for kids who have good grades and good scores (and can show promise that they can increase those scores over time.)

I’m a NY parent (recently learned of this forum and just read the crazy YJ posts in another thread). I’m telling you all of this from current personal experience. Not sure what policies of the past may have been.

But the bottom line is that grades and test scores most certainly do matter for the ivies.

If the SAT

NY/YJ parent seems to be relaying their experience, and there does not seem to be disagreement that "grades and scores do not matter", but other parents have clearly had other experiences, and those experiences have included players not having to get "1350" on the SAT to play for a top academic school.  1350 is exceptional as it represents the 90th percentile for SAT scores, but the point seems to be that some players are recruited/accepted with SAT scores lower than 1350.  Maybe they are one of the coaches "exceptions" or maybe they have a difficult course load and grades, but don't test well enough to achieve the "1350"

So, NY/YJ parent, to tell people they have "no clue what they are talking about" is pretty ironic considering you seem to be criticizing the tone of this forum by referencing "crazy YJ posts from another thread"

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Never said I was a YJ parent - false assumption #1. And anyone who's read the other thread would indeed agree that there are crazy YJ posts happening there. The entire exchange is crazy. You assumed (falsely, again) that I was taking YJ's side. I wasn't.

Those who've argued that grades and scores don't matter for the ivies have offered no additional perspective about their experience.  I, OTOH, gave a detailed explanation from personal experience that I think / hope others will find quite helpful.  
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Agree, very objective and helpful post...except for the "You have no clue what you are talking about" part.[/quote]

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