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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Columbia is an Ivy + in a rapidly gentrifying part of Manhattan. There's no shortage of top, wealthy international students that wouldn't rush the opportunity to attend Columbia. By that metric, it's really only behind Harvard since the name brand carries so much weight and Cambridge/Boston is cosmopolitan enough. MIT, Stanford, and for some even Berkeley beat it for engineering-focused internationals. Wealthy international students, and even wealthy American students today, want to attend school in wealthy metropolises, not a third-rate town like Yale's or a sleepy suburb like Princeton, or worse a rural middle of nowhere like Dartmouth. Not to add these schools reflect the epitome of old-money WASP snobbery with weirdly exclusive clubs, which wealthy internationals would avoid given they have more cosmopolitan options. Harvard is ironically the most diverse in this aspect, other than perhaps Brown/Cornell. Penn is in Philadelphia, Chicago in Chicago and Hopkins in Baltimore - none of these cities are particularly attractive to any international or even American students for obvious reasons. Both UCLA and NYU have received huge boosts in both applicant numbers and general reputation. They are in the most desirable parts of the two largest and most internationally well-known cities in the US. [/quote] It’s funny watching you try and make NYC and “wealthy international students” do so much work for Columbia, when you’re clearly a class-obsessed American poseur who wouldn’t belong in any elite settings, much less international ones. [/quote] It's unfortunate you feel so much enmity towards the wealthy due to your obvious dirt-trash background. I'm stating facts, not moral judgements. 36% of Columbia students are international. Columbia has one of the highest cost of attendance in the US, especially due to its location, and it does not give the amounts of aid that HYP do. NYC is one of the most attractive cities in the world for internationals and Americans alike. If these two basic facts give you nightmares about your low-class background, perhaps its better to not take part in the forum. [/quote] I pay slightly over $100,000 for a Columbia degree for my kid. It’s less than the price of a state university. This is on a net asset over $2.5M(retirement and home equity). [/quote]
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