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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]
What do you mean when you say testing to identify those who are positive.  Get specific what does that mean?  It should be assumed if you have symptoms you are positive that doesn't require a test ties into contact tracing

Contact tracing is being done to limit outbreaks in most of the United States and has been going on since day one.  That doesn't require a test 14 day quarantine if you have been exposed to someone with symptoms.

PPE is a mask and social distancing for most folks unless you are a medical professional

Guess what this is exactly what SK and Germany area doing

So again for the last time Jeff what is your point on testing besides the fact that you are a partisan democrat and that's their current talking point testing testing testing.[/quote]

There are two types of tests that we need. The first is to identify who is currently infectious. They can be symptomatic or asymptomatic. You don't seem to care about the asymptomatic though they can actually more important to identify. These should be prioritized towards front line workers such as healthcare providers, grocery store employees, and other essential workers. As tests become wider spread and easier to conduct, the circle of who gets tested can widen. We probably will never get to -- no actually need to -- test everyone. But, there should be enough random testing to sample populations and identify outbreaks early. The second test is for antibodies to see who has had the virus and may have some amount of immunity. Those individuals can obviously be a bit more open though we still need to confirm how much immunity is achieved.

PPE may be a mask but I'll take the advice of medical professionals. More than that may be required. Equally important is the transition to socially distant workplaces. The "open floor plan" office environment is probably going to have to go. Same as cube farms. Maybe a lot of this can continue as teleworking. We won't be able to have workers situation cheek by jowl anymore.

I have little concern about what SK and Germany are doing. I am concerned about what we are doing and we are not doing enough. That is not a Democratic talking point, but one espoused just this morning by Republican Governor Hogan. 
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Thanks for the response Jeff

I think the most important folks to test right now are healthcare workers and while there are some exceptions most of them are being tested.  Next would be essential workers that can't social distance.  We can do better there.  I agree asymptomatic is a tough nut to crack.  That's why it's recommend that folks wear masks when they go out.  While there has been talk about people being tested before they can go out mainly in Italy no country has actually implemented that policy.  On the first two points there is a middle ground to do more than we are right now (mainly for folks who can't social distance) but not as much as what you are and mainly other Ds are talking about in my view.

While there is an extreme element that wants things to go back to normal I think most of us on the open economy side understand the need for masks and social distancing.  That's all layed out in phase 1 of the 3 phase reopen plan which again can and should start happening in most of the country in my view.    [/quote]

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