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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Harvard argues race is a plus factor that is rarely outcome determinative, but later concedes that race was in fact the decisive factor in the admission of over half of the blacks at the school. Wealthy blacks with no vestiges of the hood have an advantage over poor Asians simply bc of skin color. Ridiculous.[/quote]

There’s never a Harvard undergraduate admissions decision that pits a wealthy black candidate against a poor Asian candidate.  As described, each applicant furthers different institutional objectives and contributes to a different kind of diversity.  And, of course, your description barely scratches the surface of the attributes an admissions committee is taking into account.  In general, the tradeoffs are between candidates that share some attributes.  And the weight of various attributes varies from year to year depending on, among other things, what constellations of attributes are rare or common in that class’s applicant pool.

That’s before we get to the question of whether even a wealthy African American experiences disadvantages that a poor Asian American does not.  Or why you don’t seem equally outraged that a rich Asian American has an advantage over a poor Asian American.  Honestly, you (like SFFA) seem more concerned with decreasing the number of African Americans in elite universities than with increasing the number of Asian Americans from first gen or low SES backgrounds.  [/quote]

Total BS. The dirty little secret is most of those so called black and Hispanic diversity cases are immigrants or kids of immigrants who should get no advantage in college admissions period. They experienced none of the discrimination multi generational blacks faced. Harvard is a despicable institution. I hope they lose big, but not sure that will happen because our courts don't seem to have the courage to outlaw racial animus against Asian and White Americans at these Universities[/quote]

I take it back.  You are not simply trying to get African Americans out of elite universities — you want Hispanics out as well.  Less convenient for you to admit because it undercuts your specious representation of yourself as an advocate for Asian Americans, many of whose families, like Hispanic families, arrived in the US after the most egregious examples of American racism directed toward others seen to be like them.  BTW, Chicanos, for example, have suffered multigenerational discrimination in/by the US.  “Hispanic” — like “Asian” — encompasses a wide range of histories in the US.  Also interesting to see “racial animus toward White Americans” crop up here after previous posts (perhaps not yours) attribute Harvard’s alleged discrimination against Asians to white privilege.  [/quote]

Then make Affirmative Action tailored and specific to multigenerational groups that have suffered discrimination. Why the heck should a Columbian's kid who migrated here 30 years ago, get a leg up for admission. His family probably effed over the native Americans in Columbia and now they come here and get to enjoy special preferences? Why the hell should a conquistador's descendent be allowed to migrate from Mexico to the US and get preferential treatment in college admissions? They were the privileged a*holes in their country, but the minute they step on this side of the fence they become oppressed. BS

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