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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Despite all the pro-Hamas posting in this thread, the reality is that Israel is a modern first-world democracy with a modern military, engaged in defensive action to preserve itself.  That may mean the creation of buffer zones, and changing borders.  The terrorists who initiated attacks, no matter what their grievances, are wholly to blame for the outcomes people so loudly declaim here, usually with factually incorrect and completely fabricated assertions about the relative behaviors of the combatants.

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Well said. They rarely bring up the hostages, but yes the terrorists are wholly to blame.[/quote]

Of course, taking hostages is always wrong and the hostages should be released, but what about the thousands of detainees held in Israel in "administrative detention"? How is that situation different? What was the "crime" of Dr. Al-Bursch, the orthopedic surgeon who was abducted from Gaza and tortured (very likely raped) to death in Israel's notorious Ofer prison? What was the crime of Mosab Abu Toha, the Palestinian poet who was abducted from Gaza and abused by the IDF? He was released only after the U.S. State Dept. got involved. What is the crime of the hundreds of other Gazan men (and sometimes women and children) "disappeared" by the IDF? We have video of Palestinian men being stripped and brutally abused. How is this any different from taking hostages? It [b]is[/b] in fact taking hostages. Why is the attitude of so many Israelis toward Palestinian detainees as I described above (that they [b]should[/b] be beaten, raped, and/or executed), while they expect an entirely different standard of care for their own detainees? What is the difference between a "hostage" and a "detainee" held in Israel without charges or access to the legal system? And if taking 251 hostages from Israel justifies razing Gaza to the ground and killing tens of thousands of innocent people, why does not holding thousands of hostages (or detainees) in Israel, as was the case before 10/7, not justify 10/7? Only a racist supporter of apartheid could think Israel's abuses are perfectly acceptable but Hamas' are not. Of course, both are wrong, but Israel's violation of human rights have been far more extensive than Hamas' and have caused far more suffering. [/quote]

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