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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't understand why we're not rioting in the streets about this. Seriously. Enough is enough.[/quote] Because this whole story is made up and many of us are impartial enough to see it. Violence against women is abhorrent. So is patently lying to get attention. This story is ludicrously fictitious.[/quote] You cannot be this fucking disgusting and/or stupid?[/quote] I dunno. The Duke rape charges turned out to be completely fictitious.[/quote] Yes, it's true. Rarely, there are rape accusations that are false. (The Duke lacrosse team case, for example, which happened in 2006.) Should we therefore assume that all rape accusations are false, unless proven otherwise? And what about the many rapes that occur, but the rape victim never publicly accuses anybody?[/quote] So, by your "logic", we should assume that all rape accusations are true, regardless of evidence or lack thereof? In other words, "innocent until [b]proven[/b] guilty" is meaningless and a simple accusation should suffice? I happen to believe what happened in the RS article is true and absolutely disgusting. However, because there is no proof - yet - I am very hesitant to jump on the bandwagon. Yes, rape is a big problem, especially on college campuses. But there has to be a presumption of innocence until one is absolutely proven guilty. Otherwise, what's the point of our justice system?[/quote] There is a LEGAL presumption of innocence, in a court of law. But we are not a court of law. Do you hold this same standard of "innocent until proven guilty" in your mind for other kinds of cases? For example, suppose somebody stole my bicycle. Would you similarly argue that you will keep an open mind about my bicycle having been stolen until there is a trial, and somebody is convicted of stealing my bicycle? What if the police never figure out who stole my bicycle, or they figure it out but can't prove it? Does that mean that my bicycle wasn't stolen? [/quote] This is a false analogy. If your bicycle was stolen, it's not the stealing of the bicycle but the person who stole it that I would "keep an open mind about". You couldn't simply point to some random person and say that's the person who stole the bicycle, unless there was clear evidence to support that accusation. If a woman is raped, her entire body is evidence against the person who raped her. That [b]is, if this evidence is collected soon enough and the victim chooses to press charges. [/b] [/quote]
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