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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I smell a 🧌 [/quote]

Do you think her profile is too "basic"? She says she regrets not picking more creative ECs, although I think her ECs were perfectly suited for her major + demonstrated her passion.[/quote]

Yeah, I agree there is nothing that stands out in her ECs.

ECs:
not impressive: - A few regional awards (STEM)
Actually good:  - 200+ volunteer hours @ local hospital
everyone has one:  - Founder of non-profit
this year AOs don't like research for some reason:  - Research w/ prof at T30
everyone has one:  - Competitive summer program for BME
everyone has this: - Lots of community service

This year I heard Stanford retracted an acceptance because the applicant lied about volunteer hours.
Are those 200 volunteer hours @ local hospital registered with the school?[/quote]

Yes, she made sure that everything was registered. I'm assuming the more "basic" ECs were the factor harming her application?[/quote]

No, it's just a bizarre system that makes kids do these things. In other countries kids don't have to do these admissions acrobatics.[/quote]

No, other countries instead track kids around age 11/12 (or earlier).  You are tracked at this age, based on a one day test.  Do well, you can be on tract for pre-med/stem/engineering.  Do okay, and you can focus on humanities and social sciences (non stem), do worse, and you won't be tracked for much college at all.  And without $$$$$$ it is damn near impossible to get off those tracks. 
So yeah, I 1000% prefer what we have, where a kid can grow academically after 5th/6th grade and still decide to be an engineer or a doctor after age 12.  [/quote]

Nah. You can pretty much tell where a kid should be by the end of 6th grade. Pretending that kids can “grow” after that is a waste of everyone’s time and of public resources.[/quote]

This is so un-American!
I am an immigrant from Asia. What attracts us so much about America is precisely that, as long as you work hard, you always have another opportunity.
Tiger parents often pushed kids hard in their childhood, then the kids lost motivation once they left home.

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America doesn’t do everything right. The education system is a perfect example of this! It is a huge waste of time, money, and effort to try and get every kid to go to college. Many kids should be put on a vocational track in high school, as many countries do.[/quote]

A key difference between America and other countries resides in that the public education system is funded by local tax payers, not but a central government.  We have autonomy, not dictatorship.  If you like the vocational track so much, there is community college where you can send your kid to. [/quote]

But for many kids, it should start sooner.  35 years ago, the HS I attended had an amazing Vo-tech program.  Only about 50% of the graduates went onto 2 year or 4 year colleges.  For the rest of them, they had the amazing opportunity to by sophomore year spend 50% of their day in the VT part and actually do things that interested them (hands on for most) and that would benefit them in the future.  They were not likely to ever go to college (I'm talking kids who could barely get Cs in basic courses and it wasn't of lack of trying).  But they were thrilled to be in the Vo-tech courses because it was more fun.  So why not allow them to take that path in HS.  Goal should be to "educate" them and this is doing something much more useful than pushing them into Spanish or French or more advanced math courses.  You also are not killing their love of learning when you do this.

That HS now has an amazing Vo-tech program that has bounced back in the last decade (I've seen it on national news).  It works and it benefits the kids.  Otherwise you get kids who barely graduate HS or dropout because they don't see the point, it's too hard and they just hate it.  So why not educate them in something worthwhile for their future in life.  Then they can go on to be contributing members of society. [/quote]

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