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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Can a team really be considered an academy if they don’t have a youth program? Poaching players in the DMV is development?[/quote]

You're spot on. By the time they get to DC at 11, 12, 13 they're fully developed professionals under performance based contracts
Development starts at 5 and ends at 10 [/quote]

Of course they aren't and of course development doesn't stop at 10. But they have been playing the sport longer outside of DCU than they will play it in DCU.  [b]Which in turn gives DCU a very limited window to work with the player.  Couple that with a weak academy philosophy and system and you have a recipe for development stagnation [/b]which is a huge problem that DCU has.  Players aren't getting better at a rate that is faster than their peers in better systems. [/quote]

What is the average age players are entering MLS academies who stay through U18?
What precisely is the dcu academy philosophy and system?
What details do you have of other academies philosophy and system so we can measure against?
How are you measuring "development stagnation" and the rate of speed objectively against others?

Based on the placement in college/professional ranks per academy player ratio numbers, what are the overall MLS academy levels and where does dcu stand?[/quote]

What details to you have to support any of these questions and a positive DCU argument??  [/quote]

So let me get this straight. 
You throw all kinds of personal conclusions about an entity and it's performance relative to others.

You however don't know the performance of the others and you want a member of the audience to provide the data for your presentation?[/quote]

there are pages and pages of concrete examples in this thread of areas in which DCU Academy is behind its peers.  just a few posts up is a quantitative measure of the size of the staffs.  Before that, there are stats on the number of homegrown players, their treatment of players garnering interest abroad, their lack of comparable facilities, their failure to have younger age groups in the academy, and their historical lack of investment.

your attempts to cast doubt on these facts merely by floating unanswerable questions have failed.  At this point you are wasting your time.  It seems like you have a lot of time, for sure, but you may want to rethink how you spend it.  And whatever your motivation, you're likely hurting your cause.  I have found the discussion pretty interesting in that it has laid bare DCU Academy's many faults.  Your constant questioning of these facts has just led the folks posting actual information to do it more, and more effectively.

and still no positive comparison for DCU against its fellow academies, by any metric.  [/quote]

Blah blah blah blah....
More words doesn't equate to a convincing argument.

Saying "concrete evidence" doesn't make people's strongly worded opinions and assumptions actual concrete evidence of anything.

The questions you refer to as "unanswerable" would give the anti-dcua people a resounding victory if they could answer them accurately and factually.

The reason they can't or won't answer them, is because the answers change the whining  griping personal grievances mudslinging to a truth and facts discussion minus the biased emotions.

No one can say what the value of Homegrown Players are in the arena of top level professional football as an objective measurement of success for an organization. 
What if New England decides to name many academy players as Homegrown in 2025, does that automatically mean NE is a top organization?[/quote]

What you don't understand is that the argument has already been won.  Many times.  HERE IS A NEWS FLASH - YOU LOST.  You can keep trying to deflect and misdirect but everyone who reads this thread for the rest of the time that it lives here will know that DCU is not a good academy.  And the reasons for that conclusion are well stated and laid bare for all to see.  You can think whatever you want and just live in denial.  It really makes no difference.  It's clear that you didn't know these things before and you're upset that people exposed something that you believed to be different. You bought into a lie.  It's ok.  You can still recover from it.  At least you now know what's up.  That is empowering.  [/quote]

I know you say facts guy lost, but as a neutral, I can't concur fully with that, because he asked several times for information on other academies that folks say are doing x,y,z better than dcu and no one can provide 
My 2 cents [/quote]

Was already provided. Philly union, red bulls, Dallas, real salt lake, nycfc, inter Miami and more...[/quote]

I can't find the numbers on the amount of real professionals they are churning out each year on the thread [/quote]

Verified facts guy posting as a different poster. 🙄 [/quote]

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