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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is so stupid. None of these schools are overcrowded. There was supposed to be a boundary study in the Fall of 2020 to figure out how to alleviate overcrowding at Shrevewood (and it probably would have just sent one neighborhood of kids to Stenwood instead), but it was cancelled due to the Covid shutdown and Karl F'ing Frisch took advantage of that to propose the Dunn Loring School (which nobody asked for or wanted). Post-Covid, Shrevewood was no longer under capacity. Then, post AAP changes at the school, it became even LESS crowded. This new school is totally unnecessary. What a huge waste of money. I'm sure that Western Fairfax County would prefer that you build them a new high school.[/quote]

Honest question: what are the capacity issues that necessitate a western high?  Once centreville gets built out none of those schools are overcapacity in the slightest.[/quote]

DP. I think that historically the main drivers were (1) the belief that high schools shouldn't be bigger than about 2100-2200 kids; and (2) recognition that the Oak Hill/Floris area "deserved" its own high school because that area has been bounced around from so many different schools (Oakton to Westfield and then in some cases Oakton to Westfield to South Lakes).

The first argument kind of went out the window once FCPS routinely started expanding schools to well over 2300 kids.  However, it's worth noting that Loudoun still zealously tries to avoid schools that have anywhere near the number of kids as a typical high school in FCPS.

The second argument went out the window once the county transferred the most obvious site for a school focused on the Oak Hill/Floris area to the Saudis, and the biggest overcrowding ended up further south in Chantilly.

So few really expect FCPS to move forward with a new western high school.  They are too dishonest to kill it off properly, so they just keep kicking the can down the road and including references to a future new school in each year's CIP.

However, none of that justifies building a new elementary school in Vienna at the Dunn Loring site. [b] Frisch just wanted to make sure that money would not be available to spend at the prior Blake Lane site. [/b] Given the disruption that school will create, and how it's going to gut other nearby schools like Stenwood, he'd have been just as well off holding a bonfire and just burning all the money (although the projected cost of Dunn Loring now is more than double the amount originally budgeted for Blake Lane).  [/quote]

Which is good, because Blake Lane was a terrible idea too.[/quote]

Blake Lane was not a terrible idea. The county is stuffing housing on the AT&T site on Chain BRidge and more where an office building was across from Oakmont Rec Center. Mosaic is likely to remain overcrowded. Providence is rapidly running out of space  and the city can push out county kids to house the city kids and there are many new developments in the city. Blake Lane may have not been the best site, but the general area needs more space.  Oakton E.S. doesn't have room to add more space.
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Mosaic post-renovation is at 90% per the CIP.  Everyone always talks about new housing developments, but unless you are talking about the massive changes anticipated for Tysons, there aren't likely to be changes that outweigh the demographic fade that is coming.  Blake Lane was a bad idea.[/quote]

The housing planned on the AT&T site is zoned for Oakton ES, not Mosaic ES.

Even if building at Blake Lane Park was a bad idea, several of the ES in that area are much larger, and far more likely to be overcrowded in the future, than the smaller, less crowded schools in Vienna surrounding the Dunn Loring site.

Frisch ignored all this because he wanted to curry favor with the BLP opponents (largely people with no kids in FCPS, by the way).  He misled people by suggesting it would be a win-win to renovate the old Dunn Loring ES property in Vienna, which FCPS has since said would be torn down.  You cannot seriously contend there is a greater need for a new 900-school in Vienna than in the Fairfax/Oakton area. [/quote]

Yes, but look at Oakton's boundary.  There should be an easy adjustment there, especially with Sunrise Valley.

It seems pretty clear that the School Board is looking at a quadrant approach to Tysons.  Spring Hill, Westbriar, Freedom Hill, Westgate.  To get there, Shrevewood's west of 495 segment will go to Stenwood, Stenwood's northern segment will go to Dunn Loring along with some of the southern current Freedom Hill.  Heck, some of Pine Spring could go to Stenwood and some of Timber Lane could go to Shrevewood.  I don't think this was all needed now, but I can see the vision.[/quote]

Oakton ES is a split feeder to Oakton and Madison.  There’s nothing “easy” about telling people they need to move into a South Lakes feeder (Sunrise Valley).  [/quote]

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