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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Putin's arrested Surovikin as a traitor and says he sided with Prigozhin. That makes absolutely no sense. Surovikin was one of the few people at the top of the Russian MoD who was running around trying to find ways to stop Prigozhin, he recorded a message to Wagner demanding they stand down, he sent attack helicopters to try and stop Wagner's convoy - none of the other Russian commands did any of that. Shoigu, Gerasimov and the rest fled, and were cowering in bunkers. Very strange.[/quote] I was surprised at the NYT article. This was the obviously foreseeable result. [/quote] Putin throwing people under the bus (or out of a window) was an obviously foreseeable result, I'm just baffled at how it was Surovikin. And why Putin is doubling down behind support of Shoigu (also curious: Gerasimov hasn't been seen since the revolt).[/quote] Perhaps because Putin believes Shoigu is not a personal threat. Whereas more intelligent, obstreperous leaders are, and so when they begin to make too much noise, they're out. [/quote] Shoigu is who got Putin into this mess with Prigo.[/quote] I certainly wouldn't put it like that. Prigo is a former felon, and is an opportunist with a violent militia responsible for multiple human rights abuses in Central African Republic, Syria and elsewhere. He has no business anywhere near power and influence. Shoigu didn't like him. Prigo tried to capture him and Gerasimov and was forced to switch plans when the FSB cottoned on to him. He's the worst scum in the world and does not deserve to be assassinated by Putin. He needs to be hauled in front of the Hague court and publicly tried for his many crimes. [/quote] The same court America pays countries to ignore?[/quote] PP you replied to. I'm European, not American. And last time I checked, every country was eager to send war criminals to the Hague unless they were their own criminals... which is somewhat understandable. Yes, the US is not enthusiastic about the Hague in general but it sure will be for Russians! [/quote] Aka court for thee but not for me![/quote]
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