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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The ridiculous thing about the title and premise of this thread is that it would actually be great if there were genuinely colleges for poor people. But there aren't. Poor students only get into top colleges if they win several lotteries: the lottery of intellectual ability that makes it possible for them to do well enough in school to gain admission, the lottery of enough function and stability in their lives (rare in poor families) to actually attend K-12 and graduate, the lottery of avoiding enough major set backs like mental and physical illness (both much more likely in people living in poverty). And then, even if they win these lotteries and get into one of these colleges and receive a full ride scholarship, they have to navigate a world they've never before been a part of and do well enough to graduate from college. They may have had access to weak K-12 education options so they may find themselves underprepared compared to wealthier classmates, and most will also have serious deficits in terms of the social knowledge to navigate these spaces. The idea that these schools are "for" poor kids is laughable, they are designed for and by very privileged people. But what if we had a public education system that was actually designed for poor people? Instead of public colleges where costs continue to skyrocket, community colleges where quality can be poor and where the terminal degree often does not make you marketable on the job market, or for-profit colleges designed to exploit people with limited financial resources or awareness. Oh, and also some percentage of seats at top colleges go to the very tippy top most qualified poor students in the country who managed to navigate poverty in the US of A and come out functional enough to attend Harvard or whatever. Oh no, a tragedy.[/quote] Thank you for writing this out. This thread is exhausting to read. I get why people are responding like this. If your kid is in range for one of these privates, you know how hard they have worked. How they have put their blood and sweat into building their resume and how rightly proud you are of their accomplishments. It is galling to hear that they cannot get anything they wanted after all this work because they are priced out of some of their top choices. But try to understand that for the kids who make it as far as your kid from a lower income bracket have had to beat even more odds and even with financial aid, have barriers you (and I) cannot understand. If you want to rail at something, perhaps rail against these schools accepting 15% of their student body from the top 1%. But has been pointed out several times - these are private institutions and can do what they want. [/quote]
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