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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] 🇮🇷🇺🇸 Direct communication channel between Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi and US envoy Steve Witkoff has been reactivated, Axios reports. [twitter]https://x.com/BRICSinfo/status/2033630620983669088[/twitter][/quote] Iran, please stop negotiating to this Republicans that have stabbed you in the back Three times Tell them you will only make a deal if Former President Barack Obama and Senator Raphael Warnock are the lead people [/quote] I see an American traitor has posted. [/quote] People forget that Jimmy Carter appointed himself as an American envoy in 1994 and secretly negotiated a nuclear agreement with Kim Il Sung. Yes, a Democrat ex-President went behind the back of a sitting Democrat President and a nuclear crisis (war??) was averted. Sometimes you need to have someone the other side will trust, bruised egos and diplomacy go hand in hand. What people didn't count on was Kim Il Sung dying and his more hardline, less capable son taking over too soon. This is the lesson that Trump should have understood. He killed the more reasonable, more wise Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and now we are left to negotiate with his son. [u]When Carter met Kim - and stopped a nuclear war[/u] [url]https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpee202y907o[/url] Carter presented a list of demands from Washington as well as his own suggestions. They included resuming negotiations with the US, starting direct peace talks with South Korea, a mutual withdrawal of military forces, and helping the US find remains of US soldiers buried in North Korean territory. "He agreed to all of them. And so, I found him to be very accommodating," Carter said. "So far as I know then and now, he was completely truthful with me." While enthusiastically embraced by Pyongyang, the deal was met with reluctance from US officials when Carter suggested it in a phone call. He then told them he was going on CNN to announce details of the deal - leaving the Clinton administration little choice but to agree. Carter would later justify forcing his own government's hand by saying he had to "consummate a resolution of what I considered to be a very serious crisis". But it did not go down well back home - officials were unhappy at Carter's "freelancing" and attempt to "box in" Clinton, according to Mr Gallucci. USA - Carter Declares Success With Korea [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOdAHRibcgk[/youtube] USA - Clinton On US/N.Korea Nuclear Pact Signing [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W62vlT9zjg[/youtube][/quote] Please both had the approval of the sitting president. Unlike Nixon in Vietnam and Ronald Reagan with the Iranians.[/quote] Your English is terrible. But I assume you meant... Carter had the approval of Clinton to negotiate a nuclear deal with Kim by himself. False. Nixon and Reagan were both the President at the time of the events you stated so not sure how that's relevant.[/quote] Are really this f’ing clueless or are you just lying to push your agenda? You really should learn history before posting your idiotic ideas. [quote] Several senior foreign policy officials of the Clinton administration feared that Carter might seek to negotiate an agreement that was inconsistent with the course the Clinton administration was pursuing. [b]After lengthy internal discussions, President Clinton overruled opponents of a Carter visit. [/b]Clinton hoped that a Carter visit might offer Kim Il-Sung an opportunity to back down from his intransigent stand and save face. All Clinton officials made clear that Carter would be going to North Korea as a private citizen, not an official representative of the U.S. government. Carter was specifically told that he was not empowered to negotiate any agreements on behalf of the United States.[/quote] https://www.csis.org/analysis/jimmy-carters-post-presidency-role-us-north-korea-relations#:~:text=Several%20senior%20foreign%20policy%20officials,thought%20would%20end%20the%20standoff. Carter had Clinton’s approval and was Carter was fully briefed. Nixon [quote] Declassified tapes of President Lyndon Johnson's telephone calls provide a fresh insight into his world. Among the revelations - he planned a dramatic entry into the 1968 Democratic Convention to re-join the presidential race. [b]And he caught Richard Nixon sabotaging the Vietnam peace talks..[/b]. but said nothing. … They also shed light on a scandal that, if it had been known at the time, would have sunk the candidacy of Republican presidential nominee, Richard Nixon. By the time of the election in November 1968, [b]LBJ had evidence Nixon had sabotaged the Vietnam war peace talks - or, as he put it, that Nixon was guilty of treason and had "blood on his hands".[/b][/quote] https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21768668#:~:text=According%20to%20BBC's%20former%20Washington%20correspondent%20Charles,*%20Felt%20the%20subterfuge%20amounted%20to%20treason Ronald Reagan The Iran-Contra Affair The Iran-Contra Affair is frequently described as "treasonous" or "high treason" because its secretive nature and the aiding of a hostile power.[/quote] Why do you keep arguing? Carter literally forced himself as an envoy, negotiated his own deal without having authorization to do so, and then prevented Clinton from being able to walk it back. I literally remember Carter coming on CNN announcing he had a deal. I also studied this shit, including briefly with one of DJ's close advisers, and spoke with one of the LWR inspectors. From the BBC article I posted: Carter first sought permission from the State Department, who blanked him. Unfazed, he decided to simply inform then-US president Bill Clinton that he was going, no matter what. He had an ally in vice-president Al Gore, who intercepted Carter's communication to Clinton. "[Al Gore] called me on the phone and told me if I would change the wording from "I've decided to go" to "I'm strongly inclined to go" that he would try to get permission directly from Clinton… he called me back the next morning and said that I had permission to go." From your CSIS article: Exactly this: "Carter was specifically told that he was not empowered to negotiate any agreements on behalf of the United States." Yet he did. And your Nixon/Reagan examples had nothing to do with negotiating a settlement when another President was in office. And was Reagan negotiating with himself during Iran/Contra? i thought you meant the hostages because that was before he came into office.[/quote]
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