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Reply to "NYTs: if affirmative action goes, say buy-bye to legacy, EA/ED, and most athletic preferences"
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]They can’t get rid of athletic preferences or they won’t be able to field a team. It makes no sense.[/b] I still don’t see how colleges won’t be able to still keep doing it with.holistic admissions . The whole process is such a random crapshoot anyway, [/quote] Maybe sports really shouldn't be that important to colleges. Much better things to spend the money on. [/quote] It's customer-driven, and you don't get to decide where I should spend my money.[/quote] what customer? if they want to be business, they should pay taxes like businesses and don't get any State/Federal supports[/quote] This is a great idea. Make colleges pay taxes on their property and their endowments.[/quote] No. They are non profits. Sorry that is the way it works. And you would not pay on an endowment in any event -- just on the taxable gains. But the bigger picture ---- a college with just the best test takers (and most will go back to requiring tests) is not a place most would wantr to be at. Not enough diveristy of experience and thought. [/quote] Is "test-takers" some sort of weird racial euphemism for Asians? Can blacks and Hispanics not be test takers?[/quote] You missed part of the sentence. The poster said “diversity of experience and thought.” They were not referring to race, but go ahead with your race baiting.[/quote] Can two Asians have diversity of experience and thought? Can two test-takers have diversity of experience and thought? Why does the act of test-taking remove all the diversity of experience and thought from the test-takers? Does taking tests turn students into robots? Do test takers spend 24/7 taking tests and never walk outside, don't have hopes and dreams, don't have opinions, don't have culture, family, values?[/quote] Still not getting it. The point is that holistic admissions leave room for other accomplishments, geographic diversity, cultural diversity, etc. Test score alone don’t ensure diversity of thought, interests, etc[/quote] Why should you be judged based on irrelevant factors that you have no control over, like geographic area, culture and race? Should colleges take into account physical attractiveness as well?[/quote] Well, if you believe admissions should only pick the people with the highest SAT / ACT / AP / IB scores, and the highest weighted GPAs - because study after study has shown these people go on to greater life success - then it only follows they should eventually start also selecting for stature and whether they are "hot or not" After all, many studies have shown that tall, physically fit and "handsome" people get higher paying corporate jobs that do others. It is a foolish suggestion - but if you want to lean on numbers then you have to lean on all of the numbers[/quote] No, you don't. Have you been drinking this morning?[/quote]
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